Rack and Cello pack sequence thread

ColleSystem

Would anyone be interested in posting the sequence of their rack/cello pack breaks in a thread like this, to start establishing patterns?

-Scott

FYS

<< <i>Would anyone be interested in posting the sequence of their rack/cello pack breaks in a thread like this, to start establishing patterns?

-Scott >>



Your best bet is just to e-mail 4SC and ask them for their master sequence list.

Boopotts

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<< <i>Would anyone be interested in posting the sequence of their rack/cello pack breaks in a thread like this, to start establishing patterns?

-Scott >>



Your best bet is just to e-mail 4SC and ask them for their master sequence list. >>




LOL-- I'm sure they're just dying to give that up.

On a very lame (but related) note, I do know that if you look through '89 Donruss wax packs the Griffey is generally followed by the Ted Higuera, Alan Trammell MVP, Kevin Seitzer, Mike Young, Mike Smithson, George Brett MVP, and a bunch of other card which I've now forgotten. So if you see any of those on the bottom you may have a 'hot pack' (har har).

Also, the Ray Fontenot comes before the McGwire in '87 Topps racks.

ajetfan

Every 1988 Topps Baseball rack case that I opened had Maddux and Clemens next to each other. I've notice similar trends within cases, but not across multiple cases from different sources like the 88T racks.

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julen23

i think 4sc has some instructional video on the "do's and don'ts" of sequencing. there is some bonus video at the end about "bulk submissions from hell" that really makes it worthwhile...

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ArchStanton

1987 Donruss. McGwire is after Ed Nunez in the blister packs.

Wizardsguildcards

1989 Fleer the Ripken is in the same pack that have the Canseco 40/40 card and the Chris Sabo rookie.

There is a pattern to the 1989 Upper Deck where you open the first pack reveal the rookie and counf from that number starting over a one with the last one. Griffey will be in the next pack. I am not sure where you start at and which direction you count in though.

digicat

Palmeiro usually shows up right behind Maddux in 1987 Donruss stuff.

1980scollector

ok
on 89 upper deck take the bottom pack of a row if that packs has a rookie # 2-9 griffey is in that row(of box is in same order from factory)
for example if you get #5 Jeffries count up the next pack up is #4, next #3, next #2 then Griffey so to make it easy

#5 is bottom pack in a row 4 packs up is Griffey

packCollector

seems logical but I remember buying 5 packs and pulling 4 griffey's about 6or7 years ago

ldferg

89ud high series....these were a collation nightmare. i can remember pulling 16-18 of jim abbott and jerome walton from a box....luckily for me at the time, they were very HOT!!!!!!

1989FleerBillRipkencollector

The 89 Fleer has sequence patterns. It is true most of the time. Exceptions are griffey has 2 patterns and the FF sometmes is not present at all. The griffey and FF sometimes are not where they should be and it appears they took a stack of cards once in a while and moved them around. The missing FF is due to when they pulled the card from distribution. Did you know they opened the recalled product and re-packaged? I found this to be true from a wax stained card I got from a sealed rack case. There is differences in cello patterns vs. rack. The wax packs apparently has the FF card in a certain pack everytime. I have never tried.

I know the patterns for 89 Fleer but once I told a guy who said he was just curious and planned on opening his case and wanted to know the errors in there. I assumed he was just anxious. Well he now has cello boxes on ebay for sale everyday,(toyototom or similar) along with many of the stars...so I wont make that mistake again. The only reason someone would want to know is to re-sell the searched packs right? Or to buy single packs with a star inside. Those usually stand out as they go for more than normal already.

Sure does ruin buying boxes anymore. Thanks Fleer. Even cases I buy are resealed in many different ways. In 89 when tape was new you could get that Fleer Factory tape off (using something common) and re-seal and you'd never know. Scary.

In old mags classifieds you could buy the patterns for $1 or 2. I wonder how many people that know patterns still do that?

In MOST racks the Griffey is after the Johnson by 7 or so cards. In my experiences. (3)

gregm13

I know the sequence for pulling Joe Montana from cello and rack packs - about 15 cards before and 5 or 7 after.

Regards,

Greg M.

Wizardsguildcards

I remember pulling 3 Todd Zeile's from one pack in the 89 high number. Saw a guy pull 3 Griffeys, Johnson and the Ryan High number card from the same pack.

When we had the shop in the early 1990s I remember a case of Wild Card chrome jumbos(I think). Instead of the one insert per pack it had 14 inserts and one regular card per pack. It was a crazy but fun case to rip.

jmoran19

I know the sequence for Roger Staubach's rookie card although the card is often off centered.

1989FleerBillRipkencollector

Whats also crazy is I know you can feel or whatever to pull GU but now I see packs with a guaranteed autograph in it. Not just the Topps racks that you can see but in Heritage packs. Must be in a certain spot in the box or ?? Then they use metal detectors I heard to find printing plates !! And I thought Upper Decks new tamper resistant pack in 89 was the answer to everything !!

Once I pulled a 89 Topps card in a 89 Donruss pack. The Topps card was in the middle with a wax stain. Never visited that dealer again.

spazzy

<< <i>I know the sequence for Roger Staubach's rookie card although the card is often off centered. >>


Does that mean that he is on the top or bottom of the unopened pack or is there really a sequence? I have seen many showing through packs.

jmoran19

There really is a sequence and it works for most late 60's and 1970's wax packs for baseball, basketball and football (don't collect hockey so don't know if it does or not).

montanafan

I know the sequence for pulling Joe Montana from cello and rack packs - about 15 cards before and 5 or 7 after.

greg - could you expand on this please? what year are you talking about? 1981?

Wizardsguildcards

Must be in a certain spot in the box or ??

Many times there is a pack sequence in the boxes. I remember even ad far back as early SC issues with the First Day cards, it was awlays the 3rd pack up usually in the front right row.

With newer packs I can actually tell by the weight of the pack just by holding it in my hand.

MorrellMan

I don't know if this helps, but I'm busting a 1985 Donruss wax box right now - I pulled a Puckett rookie in a pack that had Reynolds, Wockenfuss, Rice, Hawkins, etc....I think the Puckett was just before the Rice.

Carew29

My favorite is 1978 OPC baseball packs---Doug Decinces on top next card--MURRAY... Haven't missed yet!!

tennesseebanker

I have opened two boxes of 86 Donruss wax and several boxes of 86 Donruss rack and the Clemens and Mattingly cards have alwyas been in the same pack. Which is unusual because the cards are in numerical order in the set too.

jad22

Who remembers the pattern for getting the hoops David Robinson rookie? You could use the top or bottom card to determine if it was in the pack.

Tabe

<< <i>Whats also crazy is I know you can feel or whatever to pull GU but now I see packs with a guaranteed autograph in it. Not just the Topps racks that you can see but in Heritage packs. Must be in a certain spot in the box or ?? Then they use metal detectors I heard to find printing plates !! And I thought Upper Decks new tamper resistant pack in 89 was the answer to everything !! >>


In the case of Press Pass football, the autographs are easy to find (I swear I've only done this with my own boxes) - the reason for this is that they don't have any foil stamping on them in the name area. So if you slide the cards back and forth, the autographs slide differently than any others.

Tabe