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$0.01 Starting Bid; $1.00 BIN; $209.00 for S/H

1986 Hasbro G.I. Joe Recondo PSA 10 for auction. $0.01 starting bid, $1.00 BIN and $209.00 for shipping and
handling. Wow! We all know what the seller is trying to go here, unless the $209.00 is for a plane ticket to the
buyer's city to personally hand deliver the card.

/s/ JackWESQ

1986 Hasbro G.I. Joe Recondo PSA 10
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  • That type of thing really pisses me off!
    Rich
  • HoofHeartedHoofHearted Posts: 2,537 ✭✭
    Hopefully this is just another "mistake" on the seller's part, right Jack?? image

    It takes all types to make the world go 'round...
  • I also thought a mistake was made but the BIN price of $1.00 and shipping price of $209 is way off.... Unless he switched the two.
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  • SoFLPhillyFanSoFLPhillyFan Posts: 3,931 ✭✭

    I think he made a mistake.

    It should be $20,900 for shipping. image
  • yawie99yawie99 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
    Nice feedback rating, taboot.
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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    From the seller...

    "No,I listed it for $1 with high shipping so ebay does'nt kill me on final value fees"
    My Giants collection want list

    WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
  • yea, I was pretty sure that it wasn't a mistake.
    Rich
  • I thought it was perfectly accecptable for Ebay sellers to bend and stretch the ules for their benefit. image
  • The seller even posted that he was trying to avoid ebay fees on the auction!!!! image
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  • Wizard:
    I follow the ebay rules and expect everyone else to follow the rules. However, If a mistake is made, I also believe that the person making it should get a chance to fix it. In this case, the seller obviously didn't make a mistake.
    Rich
  • We will see soon if Ebay's new fee advoidance that they are suppoused to roll-out Monday works..

    Bill Cobb said that Monday they will begin aggressivly enforcing fee advoidance at Ebay live this past week.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    wizard wrote:

    "I thought it was perfectly accecptable for Ebay sellers to bend and
    stretch the rules for their benefit."


    No, it is not.

    And, there is a BIG difference between doing something intentionally,
    and making a mistake.

    Do people really purchase these 1-cent items with HUGE s/h fees attached?
    I guess they must, or else eBay would not be complaining about it.

    storm
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • HoofHeartedHoofHearted Posts: 2,537 ✭✭
    The "mistake (wink, wink)" I was referring to was Jack's earlier thread about the BIN renege he recently experienced...
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    I wonder if this is a hijacked account.

    The answer to the Q in the listing does not seem logical/un-stupid.


    Q: Hi. Are you aware that your auction says $209.00 for shipping?

    A: Yes,I'm trying to avoid FV fees from ebay.anyone interested,I can set up a similar auction.LMK


    Also, does anybody know the approximate retail value of the card?

    storm

    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • Dang can you guys not read sarcasm?? Although I feel the other seller should deliver the item and would do everything I could to force it just on the principal alone.

  • If I'm the other seller, I would also fight the battle on principle alone. I'm going to try like heck to prevent someone from capitalizing on a mistake that I made (ebay related or not).
    Rich
  • I'm going to try like heck to prevent someone from capitalizing on a mistake that I made (ebay related or not)

    I just feel everyone needs to face up to their mistakes, I do when I make one as a seller on Ebay. That is what is wrong with this world people want to hide behind the "oops, my bad' belief. You make a mistake youe need to be a man and take the consequences.

    Well I am through with this.. I am not going to change anyones mind nor will anyone change my mind.
  • from the recent ebay live: ebay announced plans to crack down on ridiculous shipping and handling charges like this.. they said that people trying to circumvent fees in this way ruins the buying experience and messes up ebay in general.. i agree, and someone should report that guy to trust and safety....
  • SoFLPhillyFanSoFLPhillyFan Posts: 3,931 ✭✭

    Seller ended the listing.
  • I feel it was a joke to see if Ebay was serious about their new policies they have announced.. Being bold like he was seems to add to that theory. Look at his other auctions no other ones are like that.
  • Wizard:
    When I make a mistake I'm a man and will admit it. I'll never try to hide it. Heck, I'll even compensate the person who I made the mistake on (ebay or pharmacy related). However, if by accident I list a Babe Ruth autograph card with a $500 buy it now price, but I meant to list it at $5,000, I'm sure in the hell not going to sell it at the $500 price (and I doubt you would either). I'll be happy to compensate the buyer for his time, but I'm not going to let him take advantage of me to the tune of $4,500. If the buyer doesn't understand that then too damn bad.
    Rich
  • AhmanfanAhmanfan Posts: 4,395 ✭✭✭✭
    Do you guys really care that Ebay gets their fees? If the buyer and seller make a transaction for X price, and ebay gets .01 or they make the same transaction for X price, and ebay gets $10.00, I'd certainly prefer the first transaction. Ebay is doing well enough, let the poor seller keep his fees.
    John
    Collecting
    HOF SIGNED FOOTBALL RCS
  • We will see soon if Ebay's new fee advoidance that they are suppoused to roll-out Monday works..

    Bill Cobb said that Monday they will begin aggressivly enforcing fee advoidance at Ebay live this past week.




    What is this new policy?


  • WOW! Is this card really worht this much?
  • Too funny.


  • << <i>Do you guys really care that Ebay gets their fees? If the buyer and seller make a transaction for X price, and ebay gets .01 or they make the same transaction for X price, and ebay gets $10.00, I'd certainly prefer the first transaction. Ebay is doing well enough, let the poor seller keep his fees.
    John >>



    Here we go... Yes ebay does well enough without the extra $10. "Let the Poor seller keep his fees". Poor ?! -If he cannot accept losing $10 on his $200+ transaction then he needs to raise his price by $10. So its ok to rip off others that are sucessful? There are rules for a reason. If you dont like them then dont sell on ebay. Go sell some cards down on the corner of your street for FREE. Since I am poor I have a resealed Jordan rookie year wax pack you can buy off of me. I would appretiate it. It would help me out. I resealed it as I cannot afford to keep a $200 pack I bought without any good cards in it. So I resealed it to sell to you. LMK
    Donovan
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  • Do you guys really care that Ebay gets their fees? If the buyer and seller make a transaction for X price, and ebay gets .01 or they make the same transaction for X price, and ebay gets $10.00, I'd certainly prefer the first transaction. Ebay is doing well enough, let the poor seller keep his fees

    The problem with this is that like any business that is losing money, eventually how are they going to make up for that lost money?? Like any business they are going to start making their honest customers pay more. I used to be in resturant managment and used to do food cost analysis and the numbers get staggering when you start running them.

    Lets say one seller lists all his items at one cent and 24.99. He lists 100 items a week. Ebay loses about 40.00 on the listings alone, and then loses 130.00 on the items in fees when they sell. Now say there are 1000 sellers doing this. That comes to 40,000 and 130,000 a week. I know of one seller who alone lists 2 to 3 thousand such items a week and the more you look the mose similar auctions you find. It might not be as obvious as the 1 cent BIN but it is pretty obvious.


  • << <i>Do you guys really care that Ebay gets their fees? If the buyer and seller make a transaction for X price, and ebay gets .01 or they make the same transaction for X price, and ebay gets $10.00, I'd certainly prefer the first transaction. Ebay is doing well enough, let the poor seller keep his fees

    The problem with this is that like any business that is losing money, eventually how are they going to make up for that lost money?? Like any business they are going to start making their honest customers pay more. I used to be in resturant managment and used to do food cost analysis and the numbers get staggering when you start running them.

    Lets say one seller lists all his items at one cent and 24.99. He lists 100 items a week. Ebay loses about 40.00 on the listings alone, and then loses 130.00 on the items in fees when they sell. Now say there are 1000 sellers doing this. That comes to 40,000 and 130,000 a week. I know of one seller who alone lists 2 to 3 thousand such items a week and the more you look the mose similar auctions you find. It might not be as obvious as the 1 cent BIN but it is pretty obvious. >>




    I agree and please dont mention food cost anymore. I used to be in resturant mgmt. for many years and that is still a bad word. Oh how I dont miss that.
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  • agree and please dont mention food cost anymore.

    Aren't you glad I made an Ebay example instead of employees giving out an extra half ounce of fries on every order for one month... That is one that will just kill you.
  • Man there is a bunch of Douches on here. Who cares what ebay gets as long as the seller and buyer is happy!!! Ebay doesnt care about you!! Some people just need to be kicked in the BALLS!!!!
  • Man there is a bunch of Douches on here. Who cares what ebay gets as long as the seller and buyer is happy!!! Ebay doesnt care about you!! Some people just need to be kicked in the BALLS!!!!

    Must be one of the scumbag sellers who conduct this practice.

    Bottom line is it erodes the buyer base and when the buyers leave it does not take a genius to see that Ebay will be gone as well.

    It will also eventually cause Ebay to raise fees moe and more and eventually run off more and more sellers, then when Ebays profits go away guess what No more Ebay.

    I hope they are sincere about their new policy. I have no problem reporting these scumbags.

    Ebay doesnt care about you!!

    Why should they?? They are a business. Their goal is to make money. However those of us who honestly sell on Ebay and follow all the rules owe it to Ebay to protect them. I look at it like this the more money they make from me the more money I am making.
  • In my opinion if anyone here needs a swift kick in the gonads, it without a doubt is Dane.
    Rich


  • << <i>Man there is a bunch of Douches on here. Who cares what ebay gets as long as the seller and buyer is happy!!! Ebay doesnt care about you!! Some people just need to be kicked in the BALLS!!!! >>



    Some people need to stop being ignorant!!!!

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  • Aren't you glad I made an Ebay example instead of employees giving out an extra half ounce of fries on every order for one month... That is one that will just kill you. >>



    That and ice cream. I will never miss the 16 YO looking at me like I am crazy because I am telling them they are not portioning right.

    Maybe Dane recently got fired from over portioning and thus created so much hatred for rules !!
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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    Burning eBay does not help buyers.
    ONLY the seller circumventing the fees
    gets a short-term benefit.

    Sellers do not pay eBay fees. BUYERS pay eBay
    fees when they purchase an item. ALL the money
    comes from the buyer; just like a real business.

    eBay has to satisfy Wall Street. If they cannot do it
    with the current fee structure, they will hike fees.
    Sellers will have to raise prices, and some buyers will
    spend their money elsewhere.

    storm

    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • wow daney, great post! i nominate you for idiot of the month!
  • First off ebay is a huge company, a couple people trying to find a way to save money will not shut EBAY down, nor will it cause EBAY to raise their prices because they are going to do it no matter what.. As for running of collectors to late, that started 12 years ago!! If anything this would be good for the few collectors still around. More money saved more money to spend. As for you EBAY NUT SWINGERS they are not going to make you EBAYER of the month for licking their cracks on here!!!
  • Dane:
    I can care less about ebay. It's all about the principle for me. Why should a few idiots like you get to avoid the rules? In my professional I see people ever day who should be working to make a living but instead choose to circumvate the system and receive state medicaid. I don't like idiots like you for the way you people choose to live!
    Rich


  • << <i>Dane:
    I can care less about ebay. It's all about the principle for me. Why should a few idiots like you get to avoid the rules? In my professional I see people ever day who should be working to make a living but instead choose to circumvate the system and receive state medicaid. I don't like idiots like you for the way you people choose to live!
    Rich >>



    WHAT THE HELL does any of that have to do with EBAY charges. What you just stated is against the law. What the Ebay seller is doing is or is atleast in the grey area. I agree with everything you said but man comparing that to buying and selling some baseball cards on Ebay is crazy. And I hate to break it to you but there are those who let the sytem kick them in the balls and others who do the kickin'. I prefer the kickin'. Nice guys will always finsh dead ass last.. I DONT BREAK any law, but unfortunatly or fortunalty for some this great country we live in is full of systems. I didnt put them in place!!
  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
    i thought there was a policy somewhere on ebay regarding excessive shipping?..
  • Dane:
    I used the medicaid comparison becuase in both instances people are finding ways to circumvent the rules. In the ebay example, ebay doesn't allow a seller to charge an excessive shipping amount. I agree with you about nice guys finnishing last. Just because a person follows the rules doesn't mean he is a "nice guy". Some people feel that it is best to treat others the way you want them to treat you. However, my rule in life is to treat others the way they treat you. With this said, I can be the nicest guy or the meanest one.....it all depends on the person.
    Rich
  • i suppose you can't just look at is a simple matter of right and wrong? so stealing a few candy bars won't shut down the grocery store, is that ok too? where do you draw the line? i personally hope ebay crams it right down the throat of these idiots that charge excessive shipping trying to avoid a few fees at the cost of their reputation. Bad business and incredibly short sighted of them.
  • BarfvaderBarfvader Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>i thought there was a policy somewhere on ebay regarding excessive shipping?.. >>



    Excessive Shipping Charges Policy
  • here's the best part: This policy reduces the potential for confusion among bidders about the full cost of an item. Listings that include excessive shipping fees lead to a poor buying experience and un-level the playing field by putting sellers who charge reasonable shipping charges at a disadvantage. These listings undermine the trust and legitimacy of eBay’s marketplace.

    what part of that don't you agree with daney?
  • In response to the previously mentioned reference about milking the system to you own benefit,I will never forget a bumper sticker I once saw it said--- Work harder,Millions on Welfare depend on you. I am not knocking people who rightfully use the system,its those who abuse it that ruin it for everyone else. Every action has a ..

    Imagine if we all ripped off ebay and other selling venues. ALL of us. There would be no outlet as they are not running a charity and we would have to go back to mail order. Well, I do miss card shows.

    If you cannot pay the fees why use their service? You want me to come charge you for car repairs but do nothing as I notice you have money? You dont mind "kickin" the system then it's ok for me to "kick" your way. PM me your address and I will come look at your car. The "system" is made up of people like you and I. I am sure you fit in the "system" somewhere as we all do. Also I know squat about mechanics so I would have "jack" you.

    Donovan
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  • Dane did you not read my example of how fast the excessive charges can add up or do I really need to do the French Fry Comparison?? Anyone who graduated third grade can see that the long term effects of screwing Ebay will be.

    Besides that if a seller is willing to screw Ebay then that tells me a lot about their customer service skills.

    Yes it is true Ebay will raise prices, but prices go up on everything that is part of life. If you don't like it why don't you do us all a favor and crawl back under that bridge.


  • Please tell us your Ebay ID???
  • already looked for it WG... there's a daneyb selling in england but he's not raping people on shipping.. maybe this guy doesn't actually practice what he preaches?
  • Actually I am not that person so please don't go flaming him/her. When I do sell cards on ebay my shipping is 3.50 which includes DC and insurance. I have never sold any cards that are over a couple hundred dollars. I guess the problem I have on here is everyone is always doggin out others I am not condoning what that seller is doing all I am saying it is up to him the buyer and ebay. If ebay continues the auction what does the buyer care. 250.00 dollars is 250.00 dollars. No matter what the breakdown of the cost is. I dont often get on here, but when I do it is post after post of "Take a look at this 10, there is no way it is a ten" or people posting the exact same for sell post in every forum, when there is 1 specific forum to list your items for sell. These forums seem to just run of the cliff. It sucks because after you look thru 5 pages you actually get to read some good post!! And people on here wonder why this site hasnt grown as much as Becketts has!!
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