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eBay PCGS keyword spammer "gradycoins" with 20 spamming auctions. REPORT HIM!
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Hmmm. Someone should email him and tell him that if you are going to keyword spam an auction, don't do it on bullion items.
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If someone is motivated to bump his auctions, it only takes one complaint to bring those auctions under review and not a bunch of folks from the forum.
Keep your priorities in order, I would rather discover the PCGS listing I was searching for was actually an ANACS in disguise then to stumble over an obvious rip-off.
MX70, think you need to chill on some of this stuff.... the reality is that lots of people are doing far far worse....
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8433290553, 8433290539, 8433288970, 8433287430, 8433287423, 8433286374, 8433286362, 8433286357, 8433279470, 8433279461
8433278468, 8433278461, 8433277446, 8433276868, 8433276395, 8433276385, 8433275164, 8433275157, 8433275149, 8431051308
You can only report 10 at a time.
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I have purchased from Gradycoins and found them to be quite reputable.
What is the harm in saying as nice as?, since this is an opinion?
So now you can not say as nice as PCGS?
Spend some time going after the real slugs on Ebay.
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MX70, think you need to chill on some of this stuff.... >>
I don't think so. There's a purpose for the search function on eBay and seeing coins I'm not looking for is not one of them.
<< <i>the reality is that lots of people are doing far far worse.... >>
Very true. And collectively we should go after them as well but what they do doesn't make this any more right.
Thanks for bumping my thread.
<< <i>So now you can not say as nice as PCGS? >>
Well, I'm not going to form a lynch mob over it to get a generally very reputable seller, but...no, you shouldn't -- NOT in the subject line.
If you want to state your opinion in the description area, fine. But not in the subject line.
I don't know why anyone would put 'nice as PCGS' in the subject line unless they were trying to snare someone who used 'PCGS' as a keyword to specifically search for PCGS coins.
<< <i>What is the harm in saying as nice as?, since this is an opinion? >>
I guess you don't do many brand name specific searches on eBay.
"Beautiful [insert name of coin here] not graded by PCGS, ANACS, NGC, IGC, SEGS, Tru-Grade, or any other TPG. It's completely raw and in its natural unaltered state, no AT or NT here! I would not grade this coin MS69, MS68, MS67, MS66, MS65, MS64, MS63, MS62, MS61, MS60, AU58, AU55, AU53, AU50, XF45, XF40, VF35, VF30, VF25, VF20, F15, or F12!! This coin has full G4 detail and might even go VG8!!!"
Or something like that...
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<< <i>So now you can not say as nice as PCGS? >>
Well, I'm not going to form a lynch mob over it to get a generally very reputable seller, but...no, you shouldn't -- NOT in the subject line.
If you want to state your opinion in the description area, fine. But not in the subject line.
I don't know why anyone would put 'nice as PCGS' in the subject line unless they were trying to snare someone who used 'PCGS' as a keyword to specifically search for PCGS coins. >>
I agree. Chris is a reputable seller BUT I also believe this was his intent.
Go pick on a real spammer
<< <i>Big deal..he's just saying they are, in his estimation,as nice as PCGS..thats his feelings and his right to say that.
Go pick on a real spammer
Wrong- No right to say it in the title. Blatant eBay policy violation.
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<< <i>Big deal..he's just saying they are, in his estimation,as nice as PCGS..thats his feelings and his right to say that.
Go pick on a real spammer
Wrong- No right to say it in the title. Blatant eBay policy violation. >>
Whatever Officer MS70...............
I can say "AS NICE AS A 2006 TOYOTA?"
<< <i>Come on folks, with all the coin crooks on eBay we are going to report an honest dealer because he included PCGS in his headers? The seller has 14101 positive feedback's and a total of 5 negative feedback's, that's quite impressive.
If someone is motivated to bump his auctions, it only takes one complaint to bring those auctions under review and not a bunch of folks from the forum.
Keep your priorities in order, I would rather discover the PCGS listing I was searching for was actually an ANACS in disguise then to stumble over an obvious rip-off. >>
He might be honest but he should know better.......
If someone that we don't know is keyword spamming, we need to report them. There are lots of threads on here daily urging people to do just that.
But, if the keyword spammer is a friend, then we should cut them some slack and not report them.
Bullchit people, get your heads out of your asses. Wrong is wrong!
<< <i>SO.....next time I want to sell a1965 Rambler
I can say "AS NICE AS A 2006 TOYOTA?" >>
I'd rather have the Rambler. Classic Americana.
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<< <i>"Beautiful [insert name of coin here] not graded by PCGS, ANACS, NGC, IGC, SEGS, Tru-Grade, or any other TPG...... >>
lkenefic, that analogy is a scream, your an advertising exec aren't you?
<< <i>Well now, lets see if I have this right.
If someone that we don't know is keyword spamming, we need to report them. There are lots of threads on here daily urging people to do just that.
But, if the keyword spammer is a friend, then we should cut them some slack and not report them.
Bullchit people, get your heads out of your asses. Wrong is wrong! >>
I just think it should be reserved for the slimeballs that sell crap as better than it is. This is not the case here. There are a lot worse auctions out there to get upset about.
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I hope not.
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<< <i>Well now, lets see if I have this right.
If someone that we don't know is keyword spamming, we need to report them. There are lots of threads on here daily urging people to do just that.
But, if the keyword spammer is a friend, then we should cut them some slack and not report them.
Bullchit people, get your heads out of your asses. Wrong is wrong! >>
I just think it should be reserved for the slimeballs that sell crap as better than it is. This is not the case here. There are a lot worse auctions out there to get upset about. >>
Misrepresentation is also being a slimeball. Why are you defending this person when he is breaking the rules??
Maybe you lack the balls to tell a friend that he is wrong! But, I don't. He is WRONG!!!!
Well it appears that PCGS has been removed from the titles.
I think we all owe MS70 a special Thank You for his diligent and noble efforts in eradicating this menace.
You saved lives today MS70 - America owes you its gratitude
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<< <i>Is everyone posting their OBJECTIVE opinion?
I hope not.
Joe. >>
My objective opinion is that based on his feedback on eBay as well as comments here, the guy is a great, honest, respectible coin dealer and person. I even agree with his subject line - they look as good as PCGS ASEs. I doubt many people would argue those 2 points.
However, eBay has rules, which he is clearly breaking. All MS70 did was say to report the keyword spamming - nothing more. Maybe he hired new people to run his auctions?
Yes - there are worse things out there, and more than likely this guy doesn't deserve to get hassled, but rules are rules - it shouldn't matter if he's a friend or eBay riff-raff. If my dad posted something like that, I'd call him and tell him he violated eBay rules and he should change it before he gets in trouble.
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<< <i>Is everyone posting their OBJECTIVE opinion?
I hope not.
Joe. >>
Yes - there are worse things out there, and more than likely this guy doesn't deserve to get hassled, but rules are rules - it shouldn't matter if he's a friend or eBay riff-raff. If my dad posted something like that, I'd call him and tell him he violated eBay rules and he should change it before he gets in trouble. >>
Good point. Why not talk with him about changing the titles instead of reporting him? Save the hasle for the limitless crooks they have on there.
PS. Already updated.
<< <i>There is nothing wrong with wanting a person to follow the rules, even if the person in question is liked by those who know him and/or have done business with him. MS70 didn't deserve the negative comments he received in this thread. >>
I believe you used the same defense for Wolf359 in the open forum for being a rat (or maybe not).
From a practical standpoint, MS70 could have reported the auctions, eBay would have contacted the seller and he would have edited the titles - just like what occurred.
Attempting to have numerous reports would only cause eBay more effort to exam each request, when it was already being handled.
It's like the guy who calls 911 for an ambulance when he stubs his toe, while the other guy across town dies of a heart attack because the ambulance is busy elsewhere.
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<< <i>Is everyone posting their OBJECTIVE opinion?
I hope not.
Joe. >>
My objective opinion is that based on his feedback on eBay as well as comments here, the guy is a great, honest, respectible coin dealer and person. I even agree with his subject line - they look as good as PCGS ASEs. I doubt many people would argue those 2 points.
However, eBay has rules, which he is clearly breaking. All MS70 did was say to report the keyword spamming - nothing more. Maybe he hired new people to run his auctions?
Yes - there are worse things out there, and more than likely this guy doesn't deserve to get hassled, but rules are rules - it shouldn't matter if he's a friend or eBay riff-raff. If my dad posted something like that, I'd call him and tell him he violated eBay rules and he should change it before he gets in trouble. >>
I agree. If there is one thing that is negative about this forum, it's that almost everyone seems to go off half cocked in their rush to jump on the holier-than-thou bandwagon... I know i'm mixing my metaphors there, but in all seriousness it seems that just a simple note to an otherwise solid Ebay seller notifying him of his shortfall would be infinitely superior to a bunch of perfectionist auction nazis firing ad hominem attacks... Not to insult my Jewish friends with the nazi term (notice I don't capitalize the name of those scum), but the moral superiority around here gets awfully deep.
Some of you guys remind me of the drivers that go 55 in the fast lane
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<< <i>There is nothing wrong with wanting a person to follow the rules, even if the person in question is liked by those who know him and/or have done business with him. MS70 didn't deserve the negative comments he received in this thread. >>
I believe you used the same defense for Wolf359 in the open forum for being a rat (or maybe not).
From a practical standpoint, MS70 could have reported the auctions, eBay would have contacted the seller and he would have edited the titles - just like what occurred.
Attempting to have numerous reports would only cause eBay more effort to exam each request, when it was already being handled.
It's like the guy who calls 911 for an ambulance when he stubs his toe, while the other guy across town dies of a heart attack because the ambulance is busy elsewhere. >>
It's like the guy who calls 911 for an ambulance when he stubs his toe, while the other guy across town dies of a heart attack because the ambulance is busy elsewhere
You must live in a very rural and backwards area. Our 911 systems around here have a 4 level priority system. The stubbed toe would be a class 4 and the heart attack a class one. You may want to contact your local EMS system and have them look into this.
It's like the guy who calls 911 for an ambulance when he stubs his toe, while the other guy across town dies of a heart attack because the ambulance is busy elsewhere.>>
I don't think that's necessarily a fair analogy. First, I have been told that Ebay is much more likely to take action if they receive multiple complaints. Second, somewhat unlike the case of a 911 ambulance, there's no assurance that Ebay would be helping someone else in the absence of those multiple reports.
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You must live in a very rural and backwards area. Our 911 systems around here have a 4 level priority system. The stubbed toe would be a class 4 and the heart attack a class one. You may want to contact your local EMS system and have them look into this.
I think he means by tying up a representative and phone line.
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I have been told that Ebay is much more likely to take action if they receive multiple complaints. >>
Actually if the eBay system was designed correctly, the reported items would be put in a database with a code of why they are reported along with a counter for the number of times it was reported.
Then the person sitting at their terminal who's job it is to check the reported items would be sent the items with the highest number of reports first.
So ideally, a "hot" problem would be prioritized so it is handled first.
I don't think ebay would be more likely to take action based on the number of complaints, but more likely to act on those reports first.
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You must live in a very rural and backwards area. Our 911 systems around here have a 4 level priority system. The stubbed toe would be a class 4 and the heart attack a class one. You may want to contact your local EMS system and have them look into this.
I think he means by tying up a representative and phone line. >>
Most 911 centers will put the low priority calls on hold.
Its evident that someone simply wrote to this seller and said, hey what's up with this? eBay isn't about to write a seller and say correct this or else, its a simple key stroke to cancel his auctions.
While my initial comments were not condoning his use of improper keywords as just, I just made mention that more serious issues are prevalent and that if a complaint needed to be made, a single person could have done it. His record of transactions warranted at least a little consideration in this forum, simply my opinion.
That person driving 55 MPH in that fast lane is more likely to receive a courtesy warning with a clean driving record than the person who has a demonstrated record of moving violations.
<< <i>Its amazing how a particular subject can drift in a thread, but the ambulance as analogy is interesting. While a "level 4 system" is a great idea in theory, the reality is that the emergency triage of the incoming calls at that moment distracts from the more serious call that comes 6 minutes later while those medics are busy elsewhere on the less serious matter.
Its evident that someone simply wrote to this seller and said, hey what's up with this? eBay isn't about to write a seller and say correct this or else, its a simple key stroke to cancel his auctions.
While my initial comments were not condoning his use of improper keywords as just, I just made mention that more serious issues are prevalent and that if a complaint needed to be made, a single person could have done it. His record of transactions warranted at least a little consideration in this forum, simply my opinion.
That person driving 55 MPH in that fast lane is more likely to receive a courtesy warning with a clean driving record than the person who has a demonstrated record of moving violations. >>
I'm assuming you have no real knowledge of EMS systems by your remarks.
<< <i>Instead of all the thread posts, why didn't one "friends" just send a polite suggestion to Grady to fix his titles? Then no need to pontificate about whether or not he should be reported. >>
Its not about Chris. A lot of legit sellers have been getting screwed. I'm personally sticking up because I would hate for that to happen to me. There are a lot of horrible sellers on there that deserve it much more. They are the ones that stick around while the others get ran out or find other places to do business.
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