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The "Mr. Clean" Dansco 7070 type set

stev32kstev32k Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭
Here is a complete Dansco 7070 type set for sale. It looks like every nickel and silver coin in the set has been cleaned. In honor of the coins conditions and because of the current fad of naming collections I dub this one the "Mr. clean Collection". Link
I guess not everyone can afford to put together a 7070 collection like Barry's, but that one is a real disappointment. Either the owner cleaned them or he sought out cleaned coins on purpose.
Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my hard drive?

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  • johnsim03johnsim03 Posts: 992 ✭✭
    I think that this thread has excellent potential to be extremely interesting...

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    John
    John C. Knudsen, LM ANA 2342, LM CSNS 337
    SFC, US Army (Ret.) 1974-1994
  • Well, it appears to me that these pics were taken with a scanner. I know my sacanner does not pick up luster at all, and when I scan my 'MS' coins they have this same appearance.

    I actually like the set, but prefer to build my own.
    Mark Piersall
    Random Collector
    www.marksmedals.com
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,432 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow. It's good to see a different opinion than mine. I have this one on my 'watch list' as I thought it was mostly an appealing set with XF'ish/AU'ish silver coins that appear mostly problem free. Maybe a little baking soda/water gentle lov'in sometime in their distant past, on a few, but nothing too serious.

    Not the finest set, obviously, but well matched and overall attractive. It's good to look at this set through someone else's eyes though.

    peacockcoins

  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a pretty nice set to me.
  • GaCoinGuyGaCoinGuy Posts: 2,764 ✭✭✭✭
    SOme of the silver looks over-dipped, but they appear to be nice coins. Way out of my range $-wise, but a decent set. IMHO.
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  • stev32kstev32k Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭
    I believe completing a set like that is something to be proud of, but I guess I've been spoiled by looking at some of the 7070 sets posted here.
    Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my hard drive?
  • Why the moderm commem crap in a nice type set??
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,890 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The first page of the set is quite nice. The remainder of the circulated silver coinage, though, has definitely been dipped. However, I cannot tell if any of the pieces have been otherwise cleaned.
    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • ElKevvoElKevvo Posts: 4,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it is a nice matched set. The seller is a member of these boards and is pretty knowledgeable...


    K
    ANA LM
  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why the moderm commem crap in a nice type set??
    because there is a page for them.
    I like the set . Whatever is dipped or cleaned is not all that bad. Very nice coins.
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  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,157 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks kinda nice IMO.

    The lack of luster on the coins would be a concern for me. I'd ask him to email a picture of one page taken with a digital camera rather than a scanner image.

    This set could have potential.
    Always looking for attractive rim toned Morgan and Peace dollars in PCGS or (older) ANA/ANACS holders!

    "Bongo hurtles along the rain soaked highway of life on underinflated bald retread tires."


    ~Wayne
  • ddbirdddbird Posts: 3,168 ✭✭✭
    Scanned images..theres almost no way to tell if they've been cleaned unless its a harsh job.

    If those were cleaned at all it was a long time ago and done lightly.

    I just think becuase its a scanned image they appear cleaned due to lack of luster. Looks like a good set to me...
  • BigD5BigD5 Posts: 3,433
    I think you're way overboard with the assessment that every nickel and silver coin in the set has been cleaned.

    The copper looks ok, the nickel and silver looks ok. Maybe baking soda and water, or soap and water cleaned at one time? Sure, but most of those coins look slabbable from the images and there are plenty of coins that look to be quite nice. The images look to have been scanned, and that will sap the "life" out of the coins, keep that in mind.

    I didn't do the math on the set, but from the images, I don't think the set is bad at all. Actually, I think it looks much better than 90% of what you would typically come across. Again, I didn't do the math to see if the set is worth the asking price.
    BigD5
    LSCC#1864

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  • johnsim03johnsim03 Posts: 992 ✭✭
    It is simply amazing to me how anyone can make final pronouncements regarding
    this type set based upon these images.

    We have gone from "they are all cleaned," to "well, some of them are cleaned," in a couple of
    hours, with this thread.

    This tells me that the true state of the type set has not been revealed. More like talking out of the butt,
    without a clue as to the real state of things.

    I have to wonder what would motivate anyone to criticize this type set, or any other. As in, if we all had
    20-50K to drop down for a Dansco type set, so what? You can have all the money you want - you might
    still croak before me, and, in that event, where will you be? Hearing thunder underground...

    If money is so important, why am I still alive and you are (potentially) dead?

    Not to get too off-tangent, but some of the postings here make me wonder where our priorities lie...

    To each his own.

    John



    John C. Knudsen, LM ANA 2342, LM CSNS 337
    SFC, US Army (Ret.) 1974-1994
  • TWQGTWQG Posts: 3,145 ✭✭


    << <i>The remainder of the circulated silver coinage, though, has definitely been dipped. >>

    - I don't know how you can make such a definitive statement from looking at scans.



    << <i>Why the moderm commem crap in a nice type set?? >>

    - the village idiot never disappointsimage
  • AuldFartteAuldFartte Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭✭
    Pretty decent set overall, IMO, but some of the older silver appears to have been cleaned to me. The copper looks pretty good for the most part.
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    My OmniCoin Collection
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    Tom, formerly in Albuquerque, NM.
  • StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is a board member's auction, he posted it on the BST forum:

    tanner520 BST

    What's funny is everybody posting in that thread thinks it's great image
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    Discoverer of 1919 Mercury Dime DDO - FS-101
  • stev32kstev32k Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭
    Maybe it's using a scanner that makes them look washed out & cleaned to me. AU & BU coins should have some luster showing though and none of the silver coins have any they look dull, but again maybe that's just a result of the scan. The twenty cent looks almost scrubbed and none of the halves or dollars have any kind of discoloration on either side. I would expect to see something in the way of dirt, faint toning, or something especially on the barber and seated liberty coins.

    Maybe I'm just too critical and too quick to judge.
    Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my hard drive?
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    I think the set looks pretty decent- the images don't allow for a complete assessment of cleaning.... I thought that putting together a type set was all about the process and the journey- would somebody buy the entire set to piece it out and try to make money?
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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,890 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Someone questioned how I could make the statement about dipping in my first post on this topic and I responded to them via PM. However, it seemed that others might question my statement, too, so I will explain.

    I can make such a statement as the above for the simple reason that approximately 100 year-old silver coins, which are moderately circulated, will not stay completely tone-free without some outside help in the form of dipping. It is as simple as looking at those 19th century silver pieces and seeing they are too white to be original. It does not matter if the image is a scan or a photograph, the color is all wrong to be original.
    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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