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A box of slabbed coins for $6 per slab?

CoinHuskerCoinHusker Posts: 5,033 ✭✭✭
Earlier this week, notlogical and I took a trip to a local coin shop and something happened while we were there that still has me baffeled. While there the owner showed us a a shipping box 24"X24", full of mostly PCGS slabbed coins and said, "I bought this box at $6 per slab. I buy boxes like this from dealers all the time and don't have time to go thru them". And I know it's not all junk. I asked to see some Ike's out of the box and he dug around and pulled out a 73-P PCGS MS65.

Is this a common occurance or was I getting another shovel full of BS? Why would a dealer sell slabs like that? And if they do, how do you find out about it before they end up in the hands of coin shop owners? I mean, I wouldn't mind going through a few boxes of $6 slabs. image

I'm baffled. image
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Is this a common occurance >>



    Yes, in fact, it is. Large volume dealers blow out the "didn't make it" coins quite cheaply.

    Russ, NCNE
  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anybody who is willing to share that much about their business is probably full of crap. Based on your previous post, he sounds like a blowhard.
  • CoinHuskerCoinHusker Posts: 5,033 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Is this a common occurance >>



    Yes, in fact, it is. Large volume dealers blow out the "didn't make it" coins quite cheaply.

    Russ, NCNE >>




    What do you mean by "didn't make it" coins? The 73-P MS65 he showed me looked pretty nice. Or was that a set up?
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  • CoinHuskerCoinHusker Posts: 5,033 ✭✭✭


    << <i> Based on your previous post, he sounds like a blowhard. >>




    That probablility notwithstanding, I'm still curious about these $6 slabs? image
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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,702 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The wholesale price of an MS-60 1973 Ike is $6.25

    Fewer than 1% of these will make MS-65. Indeed, you could buy every roll of '73 Ikes on the market at $6.25 per coin and be certain there won't even be an MS-64 in the lot.
    Tempus fugit.
  • CoinHuskerCoinHusker Posts: 5,033 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The wholesale price of an MS-60 1973 Ike is $6.25

    Fewer than 1% of these will make MS-65. Indeed, you could buy every roll of '73 Ikes on the market at $6.25 per coin and be certain there won't even be an MS-64 in the lot. >>




    But these were already slabbed coins. He wasn't offering them to me @ $6, that's what he said HE paid for them from a dealer, he priced the MS65 73-P Ike @ $95 for me . image
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What do you mean by "didn't make it" coins? >>



    Like the stuff Marty used to unload on Cammie.

    Russ, NCNE
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,544 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>What do you mean by "didn't make it" coins? >>



    Like the stuff Marty used to unload on Cammie.

    Russ, NCNE >>




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    Ouch!

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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,702 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The wholesale price of an MS-60 1973 Ike is $6.25

    Fewer than 1% of these will make MS-65. Indeed, you could buy every roll of '73 Ikes on the market at $6.25 per coin and be certain there won't even be an MS-64 in the lot. >>




    But these were already slabbed coins. He wasn't offering them to me @ $6, that's what he said HE paid for them from a dealer, he priced the MS65 73-P Ike @ $95 for me . image >>



    The wholesale price for an MS-60 is $6.25

    This is bid. You can sell these to dealers all day long at this price. It is not possible to buy an MS-65 from
    a knowledgeable seller at $6.25 . While it's vaguely possible he paid $6 each for the box, the '73 was a
    relatively large portion of the value. Frankly, I find his claim more than a little incredible.
    Tempus fugit.
  • CoinHuskerCoinHusker Posts: 5,033 ✭✭✭


    << <i> Frankly, I find his claim more than a little incredible. >>




    That is the very thing that has had me baffled. I was so curious about his claim, I just had to ask the brain trust here about it.
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  • carlcarl Posts: 2,054
    Lot of bunk I say. Like I said before about this same dealer. Why not just tell him you will buy the whole box for $7 each. That way he will make a fast $1 per coin all on one bulk sail. Even say $8 each.
    All my life I've had people tell me they could have or did buy this or that for some unearthly low price. Every time I say OK lets go get a whole bunch more for that price, they are either all gone, seller left town, sudden price change, sky wrong color, shoes to tight or a thousand and one other excuses. I am not a dealer but know many personally and since the last post of this magical $6 per slabbed coin asked some of them and they all said the same thing "WHERE?"
    I don't even know why some dealer would tell you what he paid for a coin unless he was a long time personal friend or something.
    CoinHusker, your letting that nut get the best of you.
    Carl
  • CoinHuskerCoinHusker Posts: 5,033 ✭✭✭


    << <i>
    CoinHusker, your letting that nut get the best of you. >>




    Not really, I'm just trying to get some info so that hopefully I can get the best of him sometime. image
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Lot of bunk I say. Like I said before about this same dealer. Why not just tell him you will buy the whole box for $7 each. That way he will make a fast $1 per coin all on one bulk sail. Even say $8 each. >>



    I know first hand that it happens. I even know of one deal that was done at $5 per slab. The high volume submitters are doing 10,000 to 20,000 coins a month. Their time is more valuable than trying to squeeze out an extra buck or two by selling the dogs one at a time.

    Russ, NCNE
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,702 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    I know first hand that it happens. I even know of one deal that was done at $5 per slab. The high volume submitters are doing 10,000 to 20,000 coins a month. Their time is more valuable than trying to squeeze out an extra buck or two by selling the dogs one at a time.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    I know you're right that you can buy slabs for five or six dollars each. But there's not going to
    be an MS-65 '73 Ike in the lot. There might be an MS-63 or possibly even a 64 that someone
    was hoping for a higher grade but an MS-65 is a minor score, not a reject.
    Tempus fugit.
  • tsacchtsacch Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭
    Forget the darn plastic...................look a the coins and realize, they are probably barely worth $6 each..............if that. Misses are misses, in and out of a plastic tomb. How many of the slabs were 1978 MS 62 Lincolns and ICG 1997 Proof 64 nickles? yeah a few were probably worth more, but he has got to get lots of j-u-n-k.
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I know you're right that you can buy slabs for five or six dollars each. But there's not going to
    be an MS-65 '73 Ike in the lot. >>



    There might be if the dealer wholesaling them out was in a hurry or got sloppy.

    Russ, NCNE
  • jamesfsmjamesfsm Posts: 652 ✭✭
    I agree with those saying that $6 slabs are not uncommon. On bulk modern submissions, what does a submitter do with the remaining "didn't make it" coins? He/she unloads them in bulk. And, he/she does it fast and cheap. It just makes sense.
  • ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,284 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He is pulling your leg....we buy em for $3 all the time...he is just trying to rip you for double what he pays!
    Jon Lerner - Scarsdale Coin - www.CoinHelp.com
  • BigE2BigE2 Posts: 1,037
    Definatly not a common occurence but I did buy 22 Kennedy halves in PCGS slabs from a dealer once for $175 total. It was something he just was not interested in. All MS65 to 67, 1980's & 90's. I kept a couple I needed and sold the rest on eBay figuring I'd at least get my money back on them. Ended up doing very well.
    Bargains can be had.
  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭
    At the TNA show, I saw some PCGS slabs in $1 junk boxes. 1957 dimes in MS63, Jeffersons that
    barely missed getting an FS, etc.
    Frank Provasek - PCGS Authorized Dealer, Life Member ANA, Member TNA. www.frankcoins.com
  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    where is the one dealer who has that IKE bid,


    the dealers I go to won't offer me bid


    they'll go face or 'not interested' or 'don't need any'

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