Let's try this again
incugator
Posts: 622
Okay, for anybody who did not read the post titled "A Group Purchase" let me fill you in. My name is Ryan. I am new to the message boards and feel like I have gone to trial over the past 2 hours. Luckily, I was found not guilty and have been able to make peace and hopefull form my newest group of collector friends. I think it's fair to say that they won't forget who I am.
I am currently living in the Phoenix, AZ area. There is a lot on ebay #8818010402. The sellers name of this lot's name is Ryan as well. It is purely coincidental. It is a good deal on the surface and would make for a nice group purchase but there is lots of red tape to cut through. I have been in contact with the seller of this lot and he is a fireman in Glendora, California (los angeles area). The first thing that is needed before a purchase to this magnitude is made is a person the lives in the Los Angeles Area that has time to go look at this lot. The next thing is needed is buyers. He has lots of Mantles and a Ryan rookie. If you are interested in picking up a Mantle/Ryan/ect... below SMR from this lot let me know which one or group of them. Personally I am more interested in the '33 Goudey's in the lot. There are all T206's in this lot along with other nice cards. The way I will subdivide this lot will be to label each card individually with it's SMR value. Here is how it will work.
Cost of lot/SMR Value Of the lot = X X will probably be about .65-.75 (this means that you will get these cards at 65-75% of SMR value possible more/less I'll do the math tomorrow. The X times the SMR of your cards. There will be a small shipping charge.
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If this is confusing and you are interested I'll explain more throughly in the future.
This is not a set deal and I will not make this purchase if I don't feel 100% confident that everyone is getting a fair deal.
Please do not respond to this post unless you are interested. I have a complete understanding that there are a lot of possible blunders in this purchase that is why it needs to be done carefully and somebody in Los Angeles needs to look at the lot before the purchase is made. Feel free to leave me a private message or e-mail me at incugator@hotmail.com if you have any questions. I look forward to hearing from many interested collectors. This could be an opportunity to get a great deal and start a new way to utilize these message boards. All transaction will be made through ebay and/or paypal to ensure everyones purchase safety. There are people that are skeptical about this lot and I am well aware that there needs to be a lot of backround checked into this type of purchase. Every effort will be made to ensure that safety. Thank you for your time.
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I am currently living in the Phoenix, AZ area. There is a lot on ebay #8818010402. The sellers name of this lot's name is Ryan as well. It is purely coincidental. It is a good deal on the surface and would make for a nice group purchase but there is lots of red tape to cut through. I have been in contact with the seller of this lot and he is a fireman in Glendora, California (los angeles area). The first thing that is needed before a purchase to this magnitude is made is a person the lives in the Los Angeles Area that has time to go look at this lot. The next thing is needed is buyers. He has lots of Mantles and a Ryan rookie. If you are interested in picking up a Mantle/Ryan/ect... below SMR from this lot let me know which one or group of them. Personally I am more interested in the '33 Goudey's in the lot. There are all T206's in this lot along with other nice cards. The way I will subdivide this lot will be to label each card individually with it's SMR value. Here is how it will work.
Cost of lot/SMR Value Of the lot = X X will probably be about .65-.75 (this means that you will get these cards at 65-75% of SMR value possible more/less I'll do the math tomorrow. The X times the SMR of your cards. There will be a small shipping charge.
.
If this is confusing and you are interested I'll explain more throughly in the future.
This is not a set deal and I will not make this purchase if I don't feel 100% confident that everyone is getting a fair deal.
Please do not respond to this post unless you are interested. I have a complete understanding that there are a lot of possible blunders in this purchase that is why it needs to be done carefully and somebody in Los Angeles needs to look at the lot before the purchase is made. Feel free to leave me a private message or e-mail me at incugator@hotmail.com if you have any questions. I look forward to hearing from many interested collectors. This could be an opportunity to get a great deal and start a new way to utilize these message boards. All transaction will be made through ebay and/or paypal to ensure everyones purchase safety. There are people that are skeptical about this lot and I am well aware that there needs to be a lot of backround checked into this type of purchase. Every effort will be made to ensure that safety. Thank you for your time.
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Just in case you didn't get to read his first post.
A group purchase
Ryan, nobody is falling for it. Perhaps it's time to retire this plan/idea/scam...whatever you like to call it.
Please stop. You are a f'ing moron. Nobody wants to do this with you.
I feel bad for Stingray that you stole his picture. It makes him look bad. Sting- You should change pictures so nobody confuses you with this idiot.
Happy Friday to everybody EXCEPT Ryan.
peace.
<< <i>Ryan-
Please stop. You are a f'ing moron. Nobody wants to do this with you.
I feel bad for Stingray that you stole his picture. It makes him look bad. Sting- You should change pictures so nobody confuses you with this idiot. >>
I thought the same thing.
My Auctions
Things that make you go HMMM!!!!
Everytime they read their emails I sent to them I get a reply showing the time and IP address.
These are the times.
CU Forum:
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Subject: Collectors Universe
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Ebay Seller:
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Subject: ebay 8818010402
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<< <i>Thread Title: Let's try this again >>
Let's not and begin the weekend on a positive note.
I'm working on purchasing 20K worth of 83T unopened wax. Anyone want in on this deal of the century?
I figure we all stand to lose most of your money since we'll be giving it away to a virtually unknown person who lives in a virtual world, but hey what's life without a risk?
I'll throw in a case of 87T wax to the first three investors.
Pretend I am the dumbest guy you know. Lay it out for me in simple English. What does your post conclude? You believe this guy is "legit?"
Ditto for me. I'm a 20 year old and...well....I know how to use a computer that's about it. Give me the 411 on this guy.
Mark Mulder rookies
Chipper Jones rookies
Orlando Cabrera rookies
Lawrence Taylor
Sam Huff
Lavar Arrington
NY Giants
NY Yankees
NJ Nets
NJ Devils
1950s-1960s Topps NY Giants Team cards
Looking for Topps rookies as well.
References:
GregM13
VintageJeff
I don't know crap about collecting old cards, but I do know BO and BO says read below.
This is how I look at it. I come here to get support and these Veterans here on these boards know their stuff.
If I was a betting man I would take their advise.
Most of these guys have been there and done it.
That's good enough for me.
PS. In the short time I have been on this board I have found out that you can't get too much past these old veterans and I don't mean military veterans.
Look at the times all of the emails were open.
I believe they do know each other.
The times are to close together... during that time of day.
Almost it looks like 3 different reader from the seller's email address read it. 3 different IP addresses
My emails to both guys were one liners, no need to read again. (maybe)
but, after I posted the information (my didtheyreadit.com)(Friday June 02, 2006 2:40 AM ) to the first forum, it looks like maybe this guy called the seller and told him to check on it.
If I had the money, and collected these cards, I would not go for it.
That's just my two cents.
<< <i>I don't know crap about collecting old cards, but I do know BO and BO says read below.
This is how I look at it. I come here to get support and these Veterans here on these boards know their stuff.
If I was a betting man I would take their advise.
Most of these guys have been there and done it.
That's good enough for me.
PS. In the short time I have been on this board I have found out that you can't get too much past these old veterans and I don't mean military veterans. >>
Pretty much one of the reasons I like this board. I've read these boards much longer than I've been a member, and these guys know there stuff.
Mark Mulder rookies
Chipper Jones rookies
Orlando Cabrera rookies
Lawrence Taylor
Sam Huff
Lavar Arrington
NY Giants
NY Yankees
NJ Nets
NJ Devils
1950s-1960s Topps NY Giants Team cards
Looking for Topps rookies as well.
References:
GregM13
VintageJeff
i concur on this. the message was read 3 different times all from different locations (maybe the same person going to work, home, elsewhere). regardless of location i'm following markj on this one that they do know each other. not a coincidence that this guy wants to splurge 20k within the first 45 mins of the auction.
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
<< <i>...it looks like 3 different reader from the seller's email address read it. 3 different IP addresses...
i concur on this. the message was read 3 different times all from different locations (maybe the same person going to work, home, elsewhere). regardless of location i'm following markj on this one that they do know each other. not a coincidence that this guy wants to splurge 20k within the first 45 mins of the auction. >>
...and suggests that 83T BB is the best unopened investment.
<< <i>Ryan-
Please stop. You are a f'ing moron. Nobody wants to do this with you.
I feel bad for Stingray that you stole his picture. It makes him look bad. Sting- You should change pictures so nobody confuses you with this idiot.
Happy Friday to everybody EXCEPT Ryan.
peace. >>
Mine is different though I had used that one at one time. Please change your icon for my sake. I do not want to be confused with a person who is either trying to rip someone off hear or just thinks that some people might be willing to go in on a purchase, even if legit, with a perfect stranger.
Stingray
<< <i>Okay, I'm done trying. I'll change my icon. This message board is crushing me. I still stand strong that I have no relation to the other Ryan. Sorry. >>
Oh the humanity!
Ryan -
Don't PM me again.
You do not want to know where I live, what sports interest me, what I collect, nor will you "talk to me later."
I am seriously interested in the card shows that you attend and your interested in So Fla baseball.
"How about a little fire Scarecrow ?"
Maybe you missed some of the clues but I suggest you give up for now. Possibly you would have success to try again in a few weeks with a new name, new icon, etc.... In the meantime please spare us any more pathetic posts. You are either 1) a scam artist or 2) a very stupid person. Possibly both 1 and 2!? Regardless, get a move on. Bye bye. Don't let the door hit you. Etc....
pat
<< <i>i want my money back. >>
He only refunds in credit...83 BB wax.
<< <i>Let's try this again >>
Let's not and say we did!
Ryan is cool- I paypaled him 3200 first(with my cc to a verified address)
and then when I get my lot I send the other 3000
so I trust the guy.
we talked on the phone and he assured me I will get my cut and MORE for trusting him!
I think he is legit and I want those MANTLES!
<< <i>i want my money back. >>
You mean your "Kelly" K's?
I think it's time to put a fork in it?
You had a good run and this was, at the least, entertaining.
But, as I said - this is, at best, a very naive proposal and, at worst, an apparent chance to defraud.
Have a good weekend.
Have you tried the Beckett Boards?
mike
I checked into and the references he gave me. If he doesnt win the auction I get 3500 back within a week via paypal.
I am looking foward to working with him and the other investor still to be determined!!
<< <i>Mike, he is cool!
I checked into and the references he gave me. If he doesnt win the auction I get 3500 back within a week via paypal.
I am looking foward to working with him and the other investor still to be determined!! >>
I'm not saying he is or isn't.
I wish you luck.
Now, if you are in? How have you determined who gets what?
mike
1994 Pro Line Live
TheDallasCowboyBackfieldProject
He then gets 3 and I get 5 and so forth!
I will let you know how it turns out.
However, I kinda hope he doesnt buy it and I make a quick 300.00
Bowman Baseball -1948-1955
Fleer Baseball-1923, 1959-2007
Al
<< <i>...and is your name Ryan also >>
1994 Pro Line Live
TheDallasCowboyBackfieldProject
<< <i>Mike, I get the any three cards I want first then he picks 5 then I pick 2
He then gets 3 and I get 5 and so forth!
I will let you know how it turns out.
However, I kinda hope he doesnt buy it and I make a quick 300.00 >>
Surely you are not serious.
Yes, and stop calling me Shirley.
AGAIN, I would not send that little scammer a PENNY!
I was just TOTALLY BSing!
I buy very little at the moment(twin 2 year old sons) so I would not invest with anybody let alone a scammer you ALL have EXPOSED!
<< <i>However, I kinda hope he doesnt buy it and I make a quick 300.00 >>
That's it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Am I on candid camera?
the message was read 3 different times all from different locations (maybe the same person going to work, home, elsewhere).
Hello Group,
I did some home work too. I used one of my programs and traced the IP address from the seller's account.
This is what I came up with.
All three were open from three different locations around the USA.
A new IncuGator exhibit will show live gator eggs being incubated in a lifelike nest.
"All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Polk salad annie
Gator's got your granny
chomp, chomp-chomp
Wasn't there a guy named Gradinator a while back?
I'm in for a buck. Now all we need is 19.998 other people.
How about this? We all find 10 people and have them all find 10 people, (need some help at this point with the math) I think then all we need is............HELP
All you'll need is a dollar and a dream!
Steve
<< <i>Again, to add my usual spin on these sort of things I say we all should go for it!!!!
I'm in for a buck. Now all we need is 19.998 other people.
How about this? We all find 10 people and have them all find 10 people, (need some help at this point with the math) I think then all we need is............HELP
All you'll need is a dollar and a dream!
Steve >>
Steve
And I'll throw in two bucks!
and the buck stops here...
mike
<< <i>Again, to add my usual spin on these sort of things I say we all should go for it!!!!
I'm in for a buck. Now all we need is 19.998 other people.
How about this? We all find 10 people and have them all find 10 people, (need some help at this point with the math) I think then all we need is............HELP
All you'll need is a dollar and a dream!
Steve >>
Steve,
They taught you well at the University of Nigeria
Even on ebay, we learned of a good doctor that passed away and someone was auctioning off his investments of baseball cards and coins. I forget what the seller's name was... something like Outdoorsman.... Anyway, there was a lot of auctions going up, but one of us did a search on the doctor and found nothing. Any doctor that practices for 40 years should have some trace. When asked where the items came from, the seller was very defensive. To make a long story short, a bunch of us got together with the coin guys and all of his auctions went Poof! There were hundreds of auctions and I am glad they were all gone.
There have been other characters that directly solicited fromt this board much like Ryan is doing. I forget all there names, but there is always one of us that outs them. One time we found a guy through an arial photo. He had claimed he was a business man starting a new grading company and wanted our feedback. Later we found him to be just a college punk living in a dorm.
Another time, NickM outted a guy that was on here....can't remember his ID on here.
the list goes on and on.
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