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Gotta Be the FUNNIEST GRADE EVER, RIGHT (see NEW scans and chime in)???
gonzoa
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This is downright laughable. I guess I'm wondering if anyone else has seen a funnier grade for a card?
Also, if anyone has themselves gotten an obviously completely laughable grade such as this, how was it handled by PSA? There is NO WAY i'm gonna pay to have this regraded. This one is their mistake, and I'm not paying for it....anyone had a similar situation.
The Pics are attached, and I'm hoping this works. Not sure how big they will be if it works, but let me assure you that there is NO paperloss, no creases, no rips, stains, etc etc etc. I expected this card to get a 7....maybe a 6 on a bad day.....but a 2??????
OK...FORGET THESE ATTACHMENTS. SCROLL DOWN AND TAKE A LOOK. THANKS FOR THE HELP POSTING THE BIGGER ONES MIKE.
Also, if anyone has themselves gotten an obviously completely laughable grade such as this, how was it handled by PSA? There is NO WAY i'm gonna pay to have this regraded. This one is their mistake, and I'm not paying for it....anyone had a similar situation.
The Pics are attached, and I'm hoping this works. Not sure how big they will be if it works, but let me assure you that there is NO paperloss, no creases, no rips, stains, etc etc etc. I expected this card to get a 7....maybe a 6 on a bad day.....but a 2??????
OK...FORGET THESE ATTACHMENTS. SCROLL DOWN AND TAKE A LOOK. THANKS FOR THE HELP POSTING THE BIGGER ONES MIKE.
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Would be nice to see a better scan - if you have trouble scanning - make it big and send it to my email and I will resize and post it here.
Looks better than a 2 to me?
How about a holdering mistake - like one of the cards next to it shoulda got a 2 and got a 5?
I would send it back for review I guess.
mike
after I've settled down and got under a good light.....I've always found the reasoning for the grade such as a tiny crease, etc....
Late 60's and early to mid 70's non-sports
I suspect there is something that dropped the card in the graders eyes, of course next time that card is sent in who knows if they will see it again.
Good luck either way.
there is no water damage at all. no damage of any kind. no creases (though if there was a tiny one, it still wouldn't make it a 2). and the corners are just BARELY touched. i just looked at the pic and they do look rounded in that small picture, but they really are square except the lower left which has the tiniest ding.
I just don't get it. I know I can have them review, but if it's an extreme mistake on their part, they've got to give me some vouchers or something to make up for the cost, right?
I've certainly had cards come back w/grades i didn't agree with.
and i've had some that i was so mad about, then saw a tiny wrinkle.
This one is in a league of its own.
mike
Now, I will admit this...I noticed it on my card, but you can REALLY see it in the scan. most of the right border is a bright white. the left is not. it's darker. i've seen that sort of thing with water damage. HOWEVER, there is no clear line....it a gradual color change. Also, I don't see that this has affected any of the rest of the card at all. MAYBE the yellow background on the left is a little darker than on the right, but not much. and their certainly isn't any warping or anything. Thoughts???
]Thanks again for that great scan.
Added: You'd think water damage would show itself into the Yellow background, or on the reverse, no?. Will be interesting & informative to hear what others/collectors of this set can add.
Also, After seeing that assigned Grade..I won't be able to go through my "Possible Regrade" stack for quite some time as I have nothing even remotely close to that discrepancy!
Here's wishing you the best with getting the card re-checked without incurring the additional costs.
I looked at some others on ebay and they did have kind of a wierd eye thing happening for sure, but mine seems more pronounced. interesting. when i get home i'll have to give that a close look.
But even if it is some kind of a print flaw, then a 2??!! unless it's an actually hole in the card right there, but that's not the case i'm 99% sure.
as for the back border....no, that whitening of the border is pretty typical. it's tough to avoid that. I have several '54 psa 7s that have this much whitening on them.
And just for laughs, Here's PSA's definition of a 2:
GOOD 2: Good.
A PSA Good 2 card's corners show accelerated rounding and surface wear is starting to become obvious. A good card may have scratching, scuffing, light staining, or chipping of enamel on obverse. There may be several creases. Original gloss may be completely absent. Card may show considerable discoloration. Centering must be 90/10 or better on the front and back.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
If any water or moisture got to this, then it was awfully kind. i just don't see it.
DOES ANYONE KNOW IF PSA HANDWRITES THE GRADES AT ANY POINT IN THE PROCESS. Maybe someone had terrible handwriting. Maybe they hit a wrong button on the computer. I mean, I understand if this comes back a 5 or 4.....I'd be angry with that, but it's in the realm of possibility, but a 2!!!!!!!!!
I have card that look like they were crumpled and crapped on that have come back a 2.
So there goes that possibility.
Let me ask this:
Resubmitting a card for review is like asking them to admit they were wrong. Has anyone actually had any luck getting a higher grade with a review....or has anyone even tried it before?
I've tried crossovers, but never had any luck if i put a minimum grade requirement...they always come back "trimmmed" though they aren't. I'm having problems believing a review is any different. but i don't want to crack it, cuz if they were seriously WAY wrong and are willing to admit it, I want them to pick up the check.
thoughts?
The two BEST cards I've ever submitted to PSA (out of hundreds and hundreds) both came back 8's the first time and were 10's after I cracked them out and resubmitted them -- Bob Tewksbury & Junior Felix -- 2 short-printed 1993 Refractors.
Sometimes, PSA just screws up, ya' know?
What's the worst that could happen?
Deep down I know you are right. But my conscious is messing with me. I would HATE HATE HATE the idea that they could do something so (seemingly) wrong and profit on it....not once, but twice. That would be like paying them double to screw up. I don't know that I can allow myself to do that. But ultimately, you are right, and maybe I'll do that....but man........ya know????
Now THAT is very interesting if that is true. I'd never heard that. I just examined the card (as best I could in the holder) and I don't see anything that would lead me to believe that that has happened here. However, I guess it would be impossible for me to rule that out. If so, the pre-existence of a crease would give it a 4, minus 2 would indeed be the 2 it was given....if that is true. It would be the most logical explanation....besides the one I like that they completely screwed up....or were drunk.
Still, I don't see anything but a flat surface and smooth sailing.
Resubmit!
<< <i>If the grade don't fit...
Resubmit!
Or....
If the grade don't fit... Say "F**k it, I quit!"
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<< <i>If the grade don't fit...
Resubmit!
Or....
If the grade don't fit... Say "F**k it, I quit!" >>
Preach on, Brotha Boo.
Edited to include back scan.
Robert
Any high grade OPC Jim Palmer
High grade Redskins (pre 1980)
what's going on there? the back is trashed right? or am i not alone here? nah, the back is trashed isn't it?
<< <i>The Todd card has a crease that runs top to bottom on the back, but I have no idea what PSA saw on the Williams. >>
Ya gotta think "conspiracy" - the universal equivocator.
PSA gets a kickback from the PO due to all the additional registered mail that they generate.
<< <i>Hold it between a bright light source and your face. There might be a small pinhole somewhere.
I suspect there is something that dropped the card in the graders eyes, of course next time that card is sent in who knows if they will see it again.
Good luck either way. >>
I believe that a pinhole gets an automatic 1.