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Counterfeit Cal Gold coin?

caitlincaitlin Posts: 858 ✭✭✭
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HI everyone
I looked at an old collection today and found two counterfeit cal gold coins. One was an octagonal the other round.
At least I think they were conterfeit, the reverse had 1/4 over CAL GOLD surounded by a wreath and the other 1/4 with the wreath.
The Red book states it must have CENTS, DOL, DOLL,OR DOLLAR on the reverse to be genuine.
I talked to Darin BigD and he thought they were, he also said 1 out of every 10 gold coins are thought to be counterfeit.

Any thoughts?
A collector of high grade TONED BUFFALO NICKELS ,working on a PCGS REGISTRY SET.

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  • mcheathmcheath Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭
    tons of fake fractional gold out there, i wouldnt dream of buying any raw without doing hours upon hours of research. ive seen these with a bear on them, if it has a bear it is fake.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,274 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Probably fake based on your description. Pics would help.



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  • 100proof1957100proof1957 Posts: 6,231 ✭
    Generally and i mean generally.

    1857's with an Indian or a Bear or Eureka on them are fantasy tokens made after the turn of the century.
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  • caitlincaitlin Posts: 858 ✭✭✭
    These two coins didn't have a bear on them. I don't have pics because I don't own the coins. The other thing I remember was the 1/4 was dead center on the reverse on both.
    A collector of high grade TONED BUFFALO NICKELS ,working on a PCGS REGISTRY SET.
  • TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,052 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Probably fake based on your description. Pics would help. >>



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    TC71

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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i> the reverse had 1/4 over CAL GOLD surounded by a wreath and the other 1/4 with the wreath.The Red book states it must have CENTS, DOL, DOLL,OR DOLLAR on the reverse to be genuine. >>

    Caitlin, listen to the "Red Book". If there is no denomination along with the fraction, it's not the real thing.image
  • caitlincaitlin Posts: 858 ✭✭✭
    Mark

    Thanks for the reply and yes the Red Book (great reference book) did save me from buying the counterfeit Cal Gold coin. I've never seen one before so I had nothing to go on. Now if the guy had Buffalo Nickels I most likley wouldn't of had a problem.image

    Darin BigD

    Also needed to add a Big thanks for his advice he advised me not to buy them as well.
    A collector of high grade TONED BUFFALO NICKELS ,working on a PCGS REGISTRY SET.
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,373 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are likely more counterfeit Cal golds out there than legitimate pieces, though I have no hard evidence to back this up, and what you are describing sounds no good.
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  • calgolddivercalgolddiver Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭✭✭
    guaranteed fakes(modern replicas) _ must have some denomination on reverse to be authentic
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  • caitlincaitlin Posts: 858 ✭✭✭
    Calgolddiver
    So this is what they should look like. Hope you didn't mind me posting your coin image. image
    A collector of high grade TONED BUFFALO NICKELS ,working on a PCGS REGISTRY SET.

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