What were the official scorers thinking at Wrigley ?

bri2327

Did anyone catch the call they made today ? Zambrano had a no no going and in the 7th Jacque Jones completely muffed a fly ball. It was an error if I have ever seen one and the home scorers gave the Braves a hit taking away the no hitter. Completely pitiful call if you ask me.

ToppsCo1lector

You know what else is completely pitiful........DA Cubs.

1420sports

I didn't see that or know that he had a no-no .... but I did watch Dempster pitch the ninth

Boopotts

<< <i>Did anyone catch the call they made today ? Zambrano had a no no going and in the 7th Jacque Jones completely muffed a fly ball. It was an error if I have ever seen one and the home scorers gave the Braves a hit taking away the no hitter. Completely pitiful call if you ask me. >>




I saw it. The basic rule is that you can't call it an error if the fielder can't see the ball. For example, check out some of the 'hits' in the Metrodome where the fielder has lost the ball because of the white ceiling.

bri2327

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<< <i>Did anyone catch the call they made today ? Zambrano had a no no going and in the 7th Jacque Jones completely muffed a fly ball. It was an error if I have ever seen one and the home scorers gave the Braves a hit taking away the no hitter. Completely pitiful call if you ask me. >>




I saw it. The basic rule is that you can't call it an error if the fielder can't see the ball. For example, check out some of the 'hits' in the Metrodome where the fielder has lost the ball because of the white ceiling. >>



Boo, I hear what you are saying, but wouldnt you consider the metrodome slightly different than Wrigley on an average day, with not too much sun, etc. ? Honestly, if Jones didnt come close to the ball or touch it I can see that occuring, but he messed up, saw it late, and mishandled it. I am very surprised they called it a hit considering it was at home. He is a major league player who had plenty of time to get a beat on the ball, was there, made contact and booted it.

A761506

The general rule of thumb with outfielder errors on fly balls is that unless it hits the glove, it's a base hit. If a guy loses a ball in the sun, even if he finds it but doesn't recover in time to make the play, they'll call that a hit every time. If the outfielder has any sort of bead on the ball, but fails to catch it either due to the ball popping out of the glove, or missing the opening of the glove, but still hitting the glove, that's about the only time they'll call errors on fly balls. If the outfielder has to make a dive or a tough play in general to get a to a ball and doesn't catch it but it hits his glove, those instances will more often than not be ruled hits as well.

The official scorers must be consistent, and for as long as I have been following baseball, their final determinations have been very accurate.

bri2327

<< <i>The general rule of thumb with outfielder errors on fly balls is that unless it hits the glove, it's a base hit. If a guy loses a ball in the sun, even if he finds it but doesn't recover in time to make the play, they'll call that a hit every time. If the outfielder has any sort of bead on the ball, but fails to catch it either due to the ball popping out of the glove, or missing the opening of the glove, but still hitting the glove, that's about the only time they'll call errors on fly balls. If the outfielder has to make a dive or a tough play in general to get a to a ball and doesn't catch it but it hits his glove, those instances will more often than not be ruled hits as well.

The official scorers must be consistent, and for as long as I have been following baseball, their final determinations have been very accurate. >>



except Jones DID touch the ball