Way OT but I just had to vent.

kcballboy

Absolutely friggin ridiculous! Let's look out for the well being of a convicted sex offender because he is short. Poor little fella would have never made it in the can, let's put him back on the streets.


Short sex offender gets no jail time

tennesseebanker

I read that story this morning and was utterly disgusted. If the SOB had done that to one of my kids he wouldnt have left the courthouse upright.

RichG

I don't get suprised too often, but that sure did the trick. The judge should probably lose her job for making such a stupid decision.
Rich

alohaet

The judge showed absolutely no concern for the 12yr old girl. He was concerned with protecting the safety of the perpertrator of the crime more. Unbelieveable.

Ed

ldferg

omg, this is unbelievable.

ArchStanton

She told Richard W. Thompson that his crimes deserved a long prison sentence but that he was too small to survive in a state prison.


I really would not care if he didn't survive prison. Sorry. I guess I'm just a jerk. Perhaps a little prison time would not only keep him off of the streets, but also give him some experiences that would help him empathize with his victim.

earlycalguy

when the ACLU doesn't agree with the decision you know it was a wrong one.

tennesseebanker

If he wasnt too short to rape the 12 year old girl he isnt too short to go to prison. The Judge has put the welfare of the criminal above the welfare of the vicctim and the community. Absolutely ridiculous!

jmbkb4

As part of the probation, he will be electronically monitored for the first four months and was told never to be alone with someone under age 18 or date or live with a woman whose children were under 18. He was also ordered to get rid of his pornography.
Poor guy!

1977topps

"He was also ordered to get rid of his pornography."

Well, that's good enough for me.

jmbkb4

Weird, we posted our messages at the EXACT same time.

How absurd that this guy only get probation. The poor girl.

goose3

He will do it again.

what's the recidivism rate on convicted sex offenders? I believe it is something ridiculously high.


They should have shortened something else for him and chopped his balls off.

Bosox1976

Rotten little nub of a man - Iggy Pop's song "five foot one" is eerily appropriate. I imagine he won't last long on the outside either.

LWMM

From http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/rsorp94.htm

Within 3 years following their release, 5.3% of sex offenders (men who had committed rape or sexual assault) were rearrested for another sex crime.

On average the 9,691 sex offenders served 3 1/2 years of their 8-year sentence.

Compared to non-sex offenders released from State prisons, released sex offenders were 4 times more likely to be rearrested for a sex crime.

The 9,691 released sex offenders included 4,295 men who were in prison for child molesting.

Boopotts

<< <i>He will do it again.

what's the recidivism rate on convicted sex offenders? I believe it is something ridiculously high.


They should have shortened something else for him and chopped his balls off. >>



Actually, there was an article in either the Economist or New Yorker a while ago on this very subject. They did a recidivism study of sex offenders in England and discovered that the rate is amongst the lowest of all felons.

Boopotts

<< <i>From http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/rsorp94.htm

Within 3 years following their release, 5.3% of sex offenders (men who had committed rape or sexual assault) were rearrested for another sex crime.

On average the 9,691 sex offenders served 3 1/2 years of their 8-year sentence.

Compared to non-sex offenders released from State prisons, released sex offenders were 4 times more likely to be rearrested for a sex crime.

The 9,691 released sex offenders included 4,295 men who were in prison for child molesting.

>>




Well, duh-- of course released sex offenders are more likely to be convicted of a future sex crime than non sex offenders. I bet guys convicted of armed robbery are also more likely to be convicted of armed robbery after their parole then someone who was in the joint for beating their wife as well. If you're saying that sex offenders are five times more likely to be rearrested for the same crime that got them incarcerated in the first place then other felons then that (while maybe true) would run contrary to the study I read on this same subject.

Boopotts

<< <i>I read that story this morning and was utterly disgusted. If the SOB had done that to one of my kids he wouldnt have left the courthouse upright. >>



LOL-- That's a brilliant idea. Kill the guy in front of God and everyone so you can do the next 20+ years in prison, and your daughter can spend the rest of her life harboring this irrational but persistent notion that it was her fault that her dad spent most of his adult life incarcerated.

goose3

<< <i>

<< <i>He will do it again.

what's the recidivism rate on convicted sex offenders? I believe it is something ridiculously high.


They should have shortened something else for him and chopped his balls off. >>



Actually, there was an article in either the Economist or New Yorker a while ago on this very subject. They did a recidivism study of sex offenders in England and discovered that the rate is amongst the lowest of all felons. >>




What types of sentencing do they receive initially in England? Could it be construed as Strict in comparison to our Judicial System?

Boopotts

<< <i>

<< <i>

<< <i>He will do it again.

what's the recidivism rate on convicted sex offenders? I believe it is something ridiculously high.


They should have shortened something else for him and chopped his balls off. >>



Actually, there was an article in either the Economist or New Yorker a while ago on this very subject. They did a recidivism study of sex offenders in England and discovered that the rate is amongst the lowest of all felons. >>




What types of sentencing do they receive initially in England? Could it be construed as Strict in comparison to our Judicial System? >>



Here's something I found from a Canadian publication.

One research project looked at 61 previous studies of sexual recidivism using a 4-5 year follow up period. This research on sex offenders found that 13.4% recidivated with a sexual offence, 12.2% recidivated with a non-sexual, violent offence and 36.6% recidivated with any other offence.1

A long term follow-up study of child molesters in Canada found that 42% were reconvicted of sexual or violent crime during the 15-30 year follow-up period.2

In addition, the long-term follow-up study (15-30 years) of child molesters showed that the average recidivism rate for this group of offenders is actually lower than the average recidivism rate for non-sexual offenders (61% versus 83.2% respectively for any new conviction).


This is from the following URL: http://www.johnhoward.ab.ca/docs/sxoffend/page1.htm

I really wish I still had that article I read a few months ago, as it was really illuminating. I'll see if I can find it, and if I do I'll pass it on.

Edit to add: Sorry Goose, I don't remember any specifics re: sentencing. But the gist of the article, as I recall, is that most sex offenders actually want to quit (like smoker, lol), and that proper out-patient treament is pretty effective if it's done properly and regularly.

goose3

that's certainly to the contrary of anything I've ever heard about Pervs.

interesting...


seems like most of the ones here in the US that get huge press for killling some young child are usually "reformed".


I'd be interested to see if you dig up any stats on here in the US.

Boopotts

<< <i>that's certainly to the contrary of anything I've ever heard about Pervs.

interesting...


seems like most of the ones here in the US that get huge press for killling some young child are usually "reformed".


I'd be interested to see if you dig up any stats on here in the US. >>




That's what I thought; very compelling study, and certainly it runs contrary to everything we're 'taught' about child molestors. I don't know about in the US, although I'd be surprised if the US stats. were markedly different from Canada's or the UK's, given the similarities in culture and the fact that the legal systems spring from the same source.

But the larger point here, I think, is that 'usually' judges do things for a very specific and very good reason. We hear about this kind of crap now and then, but it's a real stretch to think that a) this judge has a closet appreciation for child molestors, and wants to see them succeed in their work, AND b) that this kind of judgment was made without any regard to legal propriety. All of Karl Rove's brainwashing regarding the corrupting influence of 'activist judges' veils the fact that as an aggregate judges are very smart, very educated and very deliberate.


Edit to add: That's probably one of the reasons they get so much press. A child molestor who 'got off easy' in the penal system and went on to rape a 9 year old makes for much better press than a guy who's done it for the first time.

CDsNuts

Funny, he doesn't look like a sex offender. So was the judge on the fence between jail and probation and the guy's height tipped the scales towards probation? Could I kill 26 people and eat them, but not get any jail time if I'm 4'9? Can we have the list of crimes this guy can commit without getting jail, because I would assume that short of murder, molesting/raping a child is pretty much the worst crime you can commit.

I'm out of order? You're out of order! This whole damn system is out of order!

Also, this guy is poop.


Lee

tennesseebanker

He doesnt look like a sex offender ?? Are you looking at the right guy ??
btw-good to see you back Cd's

etown99girl

And on the same day this crazy judge gave a guy who stole some cows eight years in prison. The guys sold some cows that he didn't have and she gave him 8 years.

This judge was appointed not elected into office.

ArchStanton

The fact that sex offenders recidivate less oftenthan other criminals is old news from the 1960s. It is just now being resurrected because governments and judges who are normally on prison boards want an excuse to let them out of prison and give them shorter sentences in the first place. Their recidivism rate is based on convicts who are convicted again for the same crime. That does not tell us how often they re-offend. Sex offenses, especially child molestations and incest to an even greater extent are notoriously underreported. The nature of the sex offender is one of outward compliance and even the appearance of a yearning to be accepted. They typically do very well in therapy and community reintegration. However, 1990s brought the widespread application of polygraph tests into sex offender therapy. Sex offenders' counselors were amazed to find that clients, who seemed to be doing incredibly well, were actually re-offending on a weekly and even daily basis.

Sex offenders are unique in the criminal world because they are typically of about average intelligence. That makes them the smartest people in the prisons. In the land of the blind, a one-eyed man will be king. Also, sex offenders (like burglars - the other scumbag of the criminal world) typically have multiple victims before they are caught. Child molesters have the highest numbers, often in the hundreds.

The risk this guy personally faces in prison is nothing compared to the risk he poses to the public. There is no crime more heinous than stealing then innocence of a child. I believe that the 13.4% chance that this guy will commit the same crime, get reported, get arrested, and get convicted is far too great of a chance to take with any child’s life.

yawie99

I've never understood why non-violent drug offenders can face unduly harsh mandatory minimums while scum like this guy can basically go free.

MarkJ

They will win the appeal on this one.

pandrews

<< <i>I've never understood why non-violent drug offenders can face unduly harsh mandatory minimums while scum like this guy can basically go free. >>

RickyHendersonSD

<<But supporters of short people say it's about time someone recognizes the unique challenges they face.>>

Oh, my God! Wasn't that poor little 12 year old girl short? That judge should be thrown in jail with the perp!

MarkJ

How do you think the Governor feels now?

Boopotts

Is there anything less interesting than having a bunch of guys line up to announce that they don't like child molestors?

phreakydancin

<< <i>Is there anything less interesting than having a bunch of guys line up to announce that they don't like child molestors? >>

Would you rather everyone line up to announce how much they admire child molesters? Granted, that would make for more interesting reading, but that's not really the point here.

Tabe

<< <i>The judge showed absolutely no concern for the 12yr old girl. He was concerned with protecting the safety of the perpertrator of the crime more. Unbelieveable.

Ed >>


FWIW, the judge in this case is female.

Tabe

Boopotts

<< <i>

<< <i>Is there anything less interesting than having a bunch of guys line up to announce that they don't like child molestors? >>

Would you rather everyone line up to announce how much they admire child molesters? Granted, that would make for more interesting reading, but that's not really the point here. >>




Then what is the point? Obviously everyone thinks this is a stupid judgment. That doesn't even need to be reiterated. So why bother tossing in your 2 cents with an opinion that everyone already assumes you have?

DaBigHurt

<< <i>Then what is the point? Obviously everyone thinks this is a stupid judgment. That doesn't even need to be reiterated. So why bother tossing in your 2 cents with an opinion that everyone already assumes you have? >>








You're either against the child molesters or you're with the child molesters.