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How many 33 st gaudens are there?

I know that one is privately owned and a few by museums. But do we have a clue just how many there are?

Next question is if you are the 1 private owner who paid $7 plus for the coin, and if the government releases the rest or more show up, do you kill yourself when the value goes from $7 million plus to ??????????????/ wayyyyyy down.

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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Next question is if you are the 1 private owner who paid $7 plus for the coin, and if the government releases the rest or more show up, do you kill yourself when the value goes from $7 million plus to ??????????????/ wayyyyyy down. >>

    No, but I probably sue the government for the difference between what I paid and what it would be worth if the rest were decriminalized. I paid $7 million on their word that this would be the only legal specimen and they would have (whether voluntarily or by court order) breached the contract.
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,960 ✭✭✭
    Officially there is one. The only other known ones were the set that was just conficated by the government.

    Who knows if they will ever release them to the public. I doubt they will be destroyed.

    edited: OK I forgot about the ones in the smithsonian. image
  • MrBreezeMrBreeze Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I paid $7 million on their word... >>



    I hope the purchaser did not have this in mind.
  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,136 ✭✭✭✭
    Those who pay $7 Million for a coin won't miss a few million if the value goes down.

    Officially 2 are known. The $7MM coin and the one in the Smithsonian.
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are two in the Smithsonian.
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,389 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1 legally owned; 2 at the Smithsonian; 10 being held pending legal proceedings. How many more are hiding out there?
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  • JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭
    As Bruce said there are two in the SI.

    There is the "legal" one, at least one other privately owned coin and the ten coins that trace to Izzy.
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Probably 3-6 additional.
  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,714 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Probably more than a few on ebay from sellers in china
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Including the 3 in my basement or no?
  • KentuckyJKentuckyJ Posts: 1,871 ✭✭✭

    > There is the "legal" one, at least one other privately owned coin and the ten coins that trace to Izzy.

    Julian, how do you know there is "one other privately owned coin" ?

    KJ

  • flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭
    In my estimation, there are more 1933 Saints than there are 1927-D's.
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The other "privately owned coin" I saw here in L.A.
    around 1978 or so....actually had it in my hands;
    it wasn't the $7 Million dollar coin, based on my
    viewing THAT coin RAW at Sotheby's in Beverly
    Hills the Monday after it was displayed at Long Beach.

    By the way, the $7 Million '33 Saint had nice ejection/mechanical
    doubling on the obverse!

    When I saw the first coin back about 30 years ago, I remember
    how thrilling it was to see a Saint Gauden's with two "3"s in the date !!


    Fred


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  • DeadhorseDeadhorse Posts: 3,720
    I don't believe you can sue the Government without their permission.

    Even if you get beyond that, they simply select their federal judge to throw out your case.

    It's a lose-lose position.
    "Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."
    John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,580 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I know that one is privately owned and a few by museums. But do we have a clue just how many there are?

    Next question is if you are the 1 private owner who paid $7 plus for the coin, and if the government releases the rest or more show up, do you kill yourself when the value goes from $7 million plus to ??????????????/ wayyyyyy down. >>



    No, it's a classic, it will always go up in value no matter what.

    /Sarcasm
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Hong Kong will produce as many 33s as you need.

    Just give them three weeks for production.
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