A copy of c.o.a. for 99 silver set Fake??????

holeinone1972

While I am very tempted to get this 1999 silver set for $300 on a b i n option, why would there be a copy of c.o.a and not an original.

I will be waiting to hear back from the seller.

Could these have been cracked out and replaced with clad?

Rob



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ArgentumRex

I would find another seller if you want one of these. A certificate of authenticity is pretty meaningless, though, in my opinion.

holeinone1972

I don't really care about the coa, but when it was brought up by the sellar, it worried me alot. Why bother with a copy? I sent a ? to the seller I can't wait to hear back.

Rob

rlawsha

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Thenewguy

I dont think I would go for that one. With the way the title and description is worded you might just get a COPY of the CERTIFICATE OF AUTHENTICITY and nothing else. Nowhere in there is the coins in the set actually mentioned.
Also in the bottom description is this.



<< <i>* Production numbers include circulation quarters used in numismatic bags and rolls sets, this is to show the heritage of the united states of america and all of the quarters minted for this program symbolize a very importand piece of history for each state.A ten year set like this wont be seen again. it is a once in a lifetime program to say the lest, all are copies of certificates. all certificate copy's are packaged very well, there are no coins included, this is for a certificate copy only.Production will end in december 2008.Production will end in december 2008.Production will end in december 2008.Production will end in december 2008.Production will end in december 2008Production will end in december 2008.Production will end in december 2008..Production will end in december >>

nolimitz

what a scam that auction is!

Coindexter

I hate people like this seller, but I'll give them the respect they're due. I guess I'd never cut it as a huckster because a scam like this would never even occur to me.

Why are they due any respect you ask? Contempt breeds feelings of superiority which in turn lead to a cavalier attitude regarding this kind of scam. "I'd never fall for it!" Yes, someday you likely will. Only the most skeptical and cynical amongst us will avoid getting pinched eventually (and even some of them will get it).

pontiacinf

wasnt there another thread on this yesterday?

Its a no brainer... he is selling COA's that are copies. If you read the list he does not seem to be breaking bay of e rules

all depends on how you read it. thats my take

Bochiman

This is like those miscreants selling empty xbox 360 boxes....no hardware included.

Whatta joke!

bluespaceant

This is from feedback left by someone who was duped into buying one:

"Honest seller, prompt and professional resolution of issue with listed item, A+
Buyer mountaineercoin ( 271) May-24-06 02:54 8423949182
Reply by queenasphalt: item listing error corrected & refunded immediatley and relisted. "

Is this how the seller "corrected" the listing error?:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1999-SILVER-PROOF-SET-CERTIFICATE-OF-AUTHENTICITY_W0QQitemZ8424532724QQcategoryZ41113QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

holeinone1972

I wonder if the mint would approve of this joker linking to the mint site? Down where all of the states are listed its a direct link to the mints website.

ABC123

Rember---Buy the Coin(s) not the holder !

19Lyds

What a sheister! The seller is hoping to catch someone who doesn't have the huevos to complain. The auction title clearly states "1999 SILVER PROOF SET ( CERTIFICATE OF AUTHENTICITY)" though!

howboutdemcoins

Unless I read that wrong, he is selling a copy of a COA ONLY! No proof set.
If this is the case, how can ebay let him do that??
I guess he may not be breaking the rules but he's definitely misleading.

howboutdemcoins

This one really ticks me off! Okay you ebay pros, how do we go about "outing" him?

Thenewguy

<< <i>Rember---Buy the Coin(s) not the holder ! >>


Seems in this case you dont even get the holder..just a copy of a CoA.

Conder101

<< <i>This one really ticks me off! Okay you ebay pros, how do we go about "outing" him? >>


Report him to eBay and point out that he has active links in his auction that lead to a sales site outside of eBay. They don't like active links that lead outside, and they definitely don't like you taking people to another site that sells things. It should be enough to get the auctions pulled.

Conder101

Well it seems to have worked. I reported all of his auctions yesterday for inappropriate linking to an outside site that sold items. Today they are all gone but he did relist one with the same linking. I've reported that one now.

Whitby

<< <i>wasnt there another thread on this yesterday?

Its a no brainer... he is selling COA's that are copies. If you read the list he does not seem to be breaking bay of e rules

all depends on how you read it. thats my take >>



ITS A SCAM, NUKE EM

MS70ORBUST

<< <i>I dont think I would go for that one. With the way the title and description is worded you might just get a COPY of the CERTIFICATE OF AUTHENTICITY and nothing else. Nowhere in there is the coins in the set actually mentioned.
Also in the bottom description is this.



<< <i>* Production numbers include circulation quarters used in numismatic bags and rolls sets, this is to show the heritage of the united states of america and all of the quarters minted for this program symbolize a very importand piece of history for each state.A ten year set like this wont be seen again. it is a once in a lifetime program to say the lest, all are copies of certificates. all certificate copy's are packaged very well, there are no coins included, this is for a certificate copy only.Production will end in december 2008.Production will end in december 2008.Production will end in december 2008.Production will end in december 2008.Production will end in december 2008Production will end in december 2008.Production will end in december 2008..Production will end in december >>

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Good catch, this is fraud!!!!

Gemineye

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<< <i>wasnt there another thread on this yesterday?

Its a no brainer... he is selling COA's that are copies. If you read the list he does not seem to be breaking bay of e rules

all depends on how you read it. thats my take >>



ITS A SCAM, NUKE EM >>

Conder101

<< <i>Good catch, this is fraud!!!! >>


No it isn't fraud. He tells you what you are getting and he probably delivers what he promises, a copy of the COA for a 1999 silver proof set. But it IS highly unethical because if you don't read it carefully it is very easy to assume that you are buying a 1999 silver proof set with a photocopy of the COA.

He relisted a second one. I've reported it now too.

Whitby

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<< <i>Good catch, this is fraud!!!! >>


No it isn't fraud. He tells you what you are getting and he probably delivers what he promises, a copy of the COA for a 1999 silver proof set. But it IS highly unethical because if you don't read it carefully it is very easy to assume that you are buying a 1999 silver proof set with a photocopy of the COA.

He relisted a second one. I've reported it now too. >>



While this is not fraud, it is impossible to prove the intent of such a weird description. IMO, there could have been a far better description that the one provided. Why not state immediately, what it is you are getting, not, mid paragraph, oh by the way, no coins here.......Just a thought.

ewitte

This is funny. He is obviously aware and taking advantage that someone is going to read this auction incorrectly.

holeinone1972

Not real funny. I was almost one of them.

I would have hunted him/her down like the dog they are. LOL

Whitby

Anybody here recall the TV show Taxi? Danny Devito was the head weirdo and was a character called Louie. Louie was a scammer at heart and the bet he lost to a kid in the series was a classic. The iid bet that he copuld tell Loiis the score of all the World Series Games (Super Bowls) in the next 20 years before they even began. Louie took the bet. The kid says, zero zero, the games never began. Yeah, a real hoot and not a fraud, but, certainly, special...........

CaptHenway

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<< <i>Good catch, this is fraud!!!! >>


No it isn't fraud. He tells you what you are getting and he probably delivers what he promises, a copy of the COA for a 1999 silver proof set. But it IS highly unethical because if you don't read it carefully it is very easy to assume that you are buying a 1999 silver proof set with a photocopy of the COA.

He relisted a second one. I've reported it now too. >>



IMHO it is fraud. It may just be legal fraud.
TD

Conder101

Ok, that I can agree with. Legally executed but with fraudulent intent.

Thenewguy

<< <i>No it isn't fraud. >>



Not sure but the law might see it differently. He deliberately hid the one sentence about it being a copy of CoA only in the middle of a paragraph talking about the quarter program. Only that sentence had anything to do with the auction, the rest was an attempt to hide it. If not fraud it was a blatant attempt to mislead.

Manorcourtman

This is a blatent COPYRIGHT violation. This loser copied copyrighted info. Report her for that at the least. SCAM alert.

Sotty

The photo in his listing also shows the 99 silver box too.