Seeking Anacs pop numbers???

Numisone

1862-S Double Eagle (bowers auction)

I am considering taking a stab at this one. I have no access to the pop reports for Anacs though.

PCGS has the following poulations for (non) Paquet (which no known MS examples are known);

16 in MS with MS-63 being finest.

NGC has the following;

27 in MS with MS-63 being finest.

Giving benefit of the doubt for crossovers and resubmissions, this issue seems relatively scarce in unc grades.

So is this a true rarity in unc grades, or just not enough submitted?

Coxe

ANACS pops are pretty irrelevant here due to, as you bring up, crossovers, crackout resubmissions, ... Look at auction appearance frequency. That is the metric that represents practical relative rarity.

larrynj

while on the subject, can anyone tell me what the pop is on a 53-p jeff in ms-66fs at anacs? quite a few years back, i believe it was the top pop.
any better?

Numisone

Heritage has only auctioned 8 in the past 5 years in MS grades, I could not find any on Ebay past auctions, and only 1 at ANR.

I am thinking that this could very well be a truly rare coin.

Coxe

Breen, for what it's worth, said the date was prohibitively rare above EF. I collected S mint quarter and half eagles of the era (1850s to 1870s) and I do know that San Francisco quarter eagles were unknown for many years in uncirculated condition. Gold coins were actually used in commerce in the old west.

Numisone

As unc examples consistantly fetch 9 grand and up, I thought that I had better get some opinions before making the leap. I knew that some of you here on the forum follow better gold issues. I appreciate the help.

Coxe

There were like six dozen of the date out of the Brother Jonathan salvage. In the past decade, a handful (literally two handfuls I guess) of uncirculated pieces have come to light, 10 or 12 or so -- the whole condition census. Nice thing about a bull market is a lot of rare material gets shaken loose. The pops are pretty complete now. Looks like a good date. Bidder interest has always been spirited enough though I cannot say returns are stellar holding for the long run.

The active gold folks should be responding. If they don't, TTT it later one. There are a few that always have something informative to say.

PerryHall

I have a 1862-S double eagle with the date heavily repunched. Not sure if it adds any value to the coin but its neat IMO.

supertooth

Numisone----As of ANACS pop report of Oct., 2004, the 1862S Double Eagle had a total of 76 coins graded. 13 in AU50---5 in Au53---5 in Au55---and 2 in AU58 With NONE graded any higher. Breen 7214 had 2 pieces graded and the repunched date had 5 pieces graded. Hope this helps. Bob [supertooth]

PerryHall

<< <i>Numisone----As of ANACS pop report of Oct., 2004, the 1862S Double Eagle had a total of 76 coins graded. 13 in AU50---5 in Au53---5 in Au55---and 2 in AU58 With NONE graded any higher. Breen 7214 had 2 pieces graded and the repunched date had 5 pieces graded. Hope this helps. Bob [supertooth] >>



My double punched date 1862-S was slabbed by ANACS before Breen's Encycloepdia was published. The double punching of the date is noted on the label. I'm sure its the same as the Breen 7214.