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Regrade for Full Step designation? (PIC ADDED)!!

I recently had a 1997-P Matte Finish Jefferson Nickel grade at MS-69, but without the Full Step designation. image After carefully reviewing this coin very closely, I can't find any difference between it and other Jeffs which I've had graded with the Full Step designation. No nicks, marks, or merging of the steps. All are clearly defined.

Sooo......

What's the best route to try and get this certified as a Full Step coin? Obviously I'd like to keep the MS-69 grade, and not risk a downgrade. Is this something which falls under the "designation review" grading category? If not, is it better to send it in still in the slab for a regrade, or would it be better to crack it out first?

Can anyone offer sound advice on this subject?

Here's a close-up photo (best I could get) of the steps.

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Opinions? Full Steps or no Full Steps?

- Mark

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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,782 ✭✭✭✭
    Can a Jeffy grade MS69 without full steps? Seriously; MS69 should be a coin that has virtually a perfect strike.

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  • I was just looking and a 97 Jeff without FS is listed at $75. A 97 Jeff with FS is listed at $275. Population wise: W/O FS in MS-69, 36. With FS in MS-69, 564. The coin is listed as an SMS. In 1965,66,& 67 there were no FS designations given to the 3 year SMS sets?
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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,546 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I recently had a 1997-P Matte Finish Jefferson Nickel grade at MS-69, but without the Full Step designation >>



    I don't understand it also??? I just got grades today on a 1997 SMS Nickel and it also graded MS69 BUT NO FS!!!!!!! image

    This is the 2nd 1997 SMS Nickel I have had graded WITHOUT the FULL STEP designation in 2 months. The steps ARE there. What is wrong???

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  • How many FS's are on your '97 and who graded the coin? Do you have a picture?
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  • PonyPullerPonyPuller Posts: 134 ✭✭
    I'll see if I can snap a good photo of the coin and post it tonight.

    Each and every one of the darn steps is there, clearly delineated... very frustrating.

    The only thing I can think of is that the steps have a slight wave to them (i.e. they are not perfectly horizontal), but every 1997 SMS Jeff I've seen (3 so far...) has the exact same wave in the steps, and at least one of them has already been certified FS. (The other is still raw). Maybe if someone was looking at it really fast, and the light hits that wave just right, they might assume it's not got full steps, but if you rotate the coin, you can clearly see them all ....image

    - Mark
  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536
    I believe you can send them in for designation review without risk of losing the MS-69 grade.
  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,136 ✭✭✭✭
    If that coin is NOT full steps, then Full Steps don't exist!!!!
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  • ledzep87ledzep87 Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭
    No wonder your having so many problems, there is a faint scratch on the third from the top step on the right hand side. image






    It looks like it should be an 66 FS; if it not, then it is a conspiracy. image
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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,782 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i> If that coin is NOT full steps, then Full Steps don't exist!!!! >>


    I couldn't agree more.

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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,546 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OK, I got my 1997 MS69 SMS Nickel back,,,,,,,,,,, AND I will have to agree with PCGS. I overlooked a area where the steps are smashed together.

    I WAS WRONGimage ,,,,,,, PCGS was rightimage

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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,960 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I believe you can send them in for designation review without risk of losing the MS-69 grade. >>



    I agree, the designation review would be less costly and may be the best way to get the FS designation.
  • ar18ar18 Posts: 1,122
    1997 SMS Jeffersons have two cert # one for Full Steps and one For just grade, did you use the Full Step # on the submission form???
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    the pic above looks FS to me.
  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,466 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I was just looking and a 97 Jeff without FS is listed at $75. A 97 Jeff with FS is listed at $275. Population wise: W/O FS in MS-69, 36. With FS in MS-69, 564. The coin is listed as an SMS. In 1965,66,& 67 there were no FS designations given to the 3 year SMS sets? >>



    You would think the much lower pop number would be more valuable! image
    How interesting it will be when the day comes when the wiser collectors begin outweighing the certified hype, when the FS designation becomes something of the past! image
    Don't end up selling yourself short if you can't get the designation!

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  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    Third step up looks a bit weak to me, maybe that is why? Anyway designation review would be the prudent way to go.
  • mcheathmcheath Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭
    looks full to me, i have seen alot worse get the designation

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