Here is a challenge. An 1808 bust half- what say you..

JRocco · May 23, 2006 6:53AM

I did buy this one and I ain't sending her back

This one should go all across the board as far as guessing a grade--But its free- so give it a shot. It is obviously a late die state coin. What I can add is the luster is all there-period. Look for the wear on this one guys, not the normal weak strike known in this year. The variety isn't a hard one.
I have to give credit to mgoodm3 for taking these pics.
It is a challenge to try to grade this with this low pixel pic and much easier with the larger res version.
It is in an NGC holder, and I agree with the seller- graded correctly (easy for me with the coin in hand I know).
This one has found a long term home.

I only wish these early bust halves were cheaper so I could buy more of these more often.....

BlindedByEgo · May 23, 2006 6:55AM

I like ti a lot, and I haven't a clue, so I'll be the first to say MS58

MS64

TahoeDale · May 23, 2006 6:57AM

A very PQ coin ! Congrats.

AU 53, is my best guess.

TomB · May 23, 2006 6:59AM

That is a whale of a coin!

BECOKA · May 23, 2006 7:02AM

AU55, just gut feeling no analysis invovled.

Although not being familiar with die states and weakness of striks it could just as easily be an MS62/63 coin.

elwood · May 23, 2006 7:03AM

53-55

Nice coin!!

mgoodm3 · May 23, 2006 7:03AM

It is very pretty in hand.

OKbustchaser · May 23, 2006 7:13AM

I think it is an AU coin...50-53.

291fifth · May 23, 2006 7:26AM

AU 55 from worn dies.

stman · May 23, 2006 7:26AM

<< <i>It is in an NGC holder, and I agree with the seller- graded correctly (easy for me with the coin in hand I know) >>

<< <i>What I can add is the luster is all there-period >>

I don't believe you, you DID say it's in a NGC holder right? I don't see all this luster you talk about from the image either.
PCGS F-12 NGC MUCH higher.

cmanbb · May 23, 2006 7:33AM

Nice addition to ANY set................I think NGC went with an AU58 grade!!

rhedden · May 23, 2006 7:33AM

AU-58 if that is rub on the high parts of the wing & Liberty's throat; otherwise an MS coin. It has a great look overall.

topstuf · May 23, 2006 7:41AM

If it's NGC, I'll guess PF70 specimen with star. To get 58 at NGC it's gotta have scratches an cleaning.

Crazy4Coins · May 23, 2006 7:42AM

AU55......Nice Bustie....I like it!

coinlieutenant · May 23, 2006 8:02AM

Steve's old coin...nice.

Connecticoin · May 23, 2006 8:04AM

MS-62

ER · May 23, 2006 8:06AM

Since you said "across the board", I'll help you out. MS70.

mepot · May 23, 2006 8:06AM

I don't think thats rub,as much as a change in the colors.O-102a,MS60?

Overton calls that one an R5 without the obv die crack,R2 with.Interesting!

Gemini · May 23, 2006 8:26AM

A very pretty half these early hand squeezed busties are so unique.

LanLord · May 23, 2006 8:27AM

When I saw it, I was back and forth between au58 and ms63, I'll go with au58, but I'd be willing to pay ms63 for it.

kryptonitecomics · May 23, 2006 8:28AM

ms64

LincolnCentMan · May 23, 2006 8:30AM

AU55

David

messydesk · May 23, 2006 8:31AM

I talked myself into seeing wear on the high points, so AU55

nankraut · May 23, 2006 8:34AM

AU-58

tsacch · May 23, 2006 8:46AM

I love, love, love it. I am gonna say 62 and be out on a limb by myself. The hints are there, no wear, luster.....so OK NGC 62.

mozin · May 23, 2006 8:53AM

Normally, I would say this is NGC AU58. Because you two agree on the holder grade, I will say it is only NGC AU55 on the holder. Gorgeous coin, one I would be proud to own.

crispy · May 23, 2006 9:17AM

I gotta believe it'd be a 58 (slight rub) even with the worn dies, but TPG grading being what it is: MS62

Very attractive coin. Love the color.

DickyBetz · May 23, 2006 9:24AM

55

slumlord98 · May 23, 2006 9:29AM

Mmmmm, bisecting die crack... mmmmmm...

Grade guesses from 12-70, not all serious. I don't see all the luster that you mention, but this isn't a coin for amateurs to be guessing on, so you will excuse me when my guess proves laughably low. 55.

coinkat · May 23, 2006 9:33AM

Beautiful coin and grading this is tough... I like it alot. The strike adds to the challenge of grading it. I think there is cabinet friction and the technical grade is likely 58. In terms of quality and eye appeal, I wish that I could say 62 but I feel that is a disservice to the coin and everyone else. It is possible for it to go MS, but I need to see it first. In closing, this is one of those coins that the grade on the plastic should be a secondary concern. Excellent pick up and addition to your collection JRocco... congrats and it is good to hear it will be "staying put" for the long term

mozin · May 23, 2006 9:34AM

<< <i>Mmmmm, bisecting die crack... mmmmmm...

Grade guesses from 12-70, not all serious. I don't see all the luster that you mention, but this isn't a coin for amateurs to be guessing on, so you will excuse me when my guess proves laughably low. 55. >>

What do you mean "laughably low", eight of us called it 55 before you?

Gemineye · May 23, 2006 9:57AM

It looks like most of the Denticles are gone on the reverse and obverss also......still has eye appeal
VF-20

JRocco · May 23, 2006 10:24AM

Thanks for the nice words guys. I really like this coin. It has drop dead eye appeal and is a nice early date bustie to boot. This coin does have some rub, but only a little. I am not a registry guy and I am neutral on plastic, so this coin was purchased because I really like it.
It is in an NGC AU 58 holder and is really easy to grade in hand because the surfaces show the rub when looked at from an angle and they likewise show the areas without rub just as plainly. This will be a keeper for sure. For the record, I think this would easily cross to a PCGS 58 holder because the coin is a 58 in hand. But not on my watch.
Thanks again guys.

stman · May 23, 2006 10:54AM

Glad you really like it. I actually found this a while back at a small show of about 30 tables. Wasn't expecting it, but I did have a check in my wallet for this type of occasion. I grabbed it very quick. Not a rip mind you as the seller knew what he had. I didn't get to say a proper good-bye to this one.

As you know I'm not into the Registry and don't care what holder (if any) a nice coin is in. I felt the coin was all there. I thought about crossing it just for the heck of it, (and I don't think it would have a problem doing so) but then it would have cost you more!

Enjoy!

JRocco · May 23, 2006 11:04AM

HaHa stman, you should have waited for the check to clear before you sent this one............ Only kidding

Let me thank you here for this one- It is a nice addition to my set and one that needs a certain companion coin-if you know what I mean. You also should know by now stman, that I also don't give a rats a$$ whose holder it is in... if I like it, I want it.......raw or fully entombed.

JoesMaName · May 23, 2006 11:32AM

RE: "what say you..:

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CoinAddict · May 23, 2006 11:46AM

Absolutely gorgeous bustie, John. She is a real looker.

ElmerFusterpuck · May 23, 2006 11:56AM

Nice bust half and I have no problems with the grade, no matter whose holder it's in. You think Laura would offer a good AU-58 price even though it's in a 'not PCGS' holder?