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2 Mercs - NGC fatties - possible proof upgrades?

BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
Why are proofs so hard to image? I've been messing around with these on and off all evening. Let me have some opinions.

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  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    A submission to NCS may be helpful for both of those coins.
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  • I don't know, but I have some that I have tried to image, but they keep coming out looking like crap. I gave up.
  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>A submission to NCS may be helpful for both of those coins. >>



    Since they are already in NGC plastic, why NCS? The toning is not at all unattractive in hand. I don't understand your statement - please educate me.
  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>A submission to NCS may be helpful for both of those coins. >>



    Since they are already in NGC plastic, why NCS? The toning is not at all unattractive in hand. I don't understand your statement - please educate me. >>



    Toning, often unattractive toning, can "grow" on a coin's surface after it is placed in a grading service holder. The toning on the first coin in particular is splotchy and unattractive. High grade classic coins, especially proof coins, are judged not only on their technical aspects but also on their eye appeal. A proof coin that is technically superior but visually unattractive will often lose points on their grades. NCS can remove the unattractive toning and consequently give the coin a chance for an upgrade by increasing the coin's eye appeal.

    The toning on the second coin isn't as unattractive as the toning on the first coin.
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  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>

    << <i>A submission to NCS may be helpful for both of those coins. >>



    Since they are already in NGC plastic, why NCS? The toning is not at all unattractive in hand. I don't understand your statement - please educate me. >>



    Toning, often unattractive toning, can "grow" on a coin's surface after it is placed in a grading service holder. The toning on the first coin in particular is splotchy and unattractive. High grade classic coins, especially proof coins, are judged not only on their technical aspects but also on their eye appeal. A proof coin that is technically superior but visually unattractive will often lose points on their grades. NCS can remove the unattractive toning and consequently give the coin a chance for an upgrade by increasing the coin's eye appeal.

    The toning on the second coin isn't as unattractive as the toning on the first coin. >>



    So a trip to NCS for a quick dip and they'll go back into NGC plastic? Or do they spend their lives in the NCS "scarlet letter" holder, like an ANACS net grade?

  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>A submission to NCS may be helpful for both of those coins. >>



    Since they are already in NGC plastic, why NCS? The toning is not at all unattractive in hand. I don't understand your statement - please educate me. >>



    Toning, often unattractive toning, can "grow" on a coin's surface after it is placed in a grading service holder. The toning on the first coin in particular is splotchy and unattractive. High grade classic coins, especially proof coins, are judged not only on their technical aspects but also on their eye appeal. A proof coin that is technically superior but visually unattractive will often lose points on their grades. NCS can remove the unattractive toning and consequently give the coin a chance for an upgrade by increasing the coin's eye appeal.

    The toning on the second coin isn't as unattractive as the toning on the first coin. >>



    So a trip to NCS for a quick dip and they'll go back into NGC plastic? Or do they spend their lives in the NCS "scarlet letter" holder, like an ANACS net grade? >>



    NCS automatically has a grade protection guarantee for coins that they accept for conservation. All previously NGC graded coins will not end up in an NCS net holder. PM me or call NCS tommorrow at 866.627.2646 for details on their procedures.
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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>NCS automatically has a grade protection guarantee for coins that they accept for conservation >>

    I'd check out the particulars on that. While I refuse to submit to NCS, I believe that they either changed or eliminated their "grade protection" guarantee within the past year or so.

    Edited to add: I'd leave the coins as they are, anyway.image
  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey Mark, can I show them to you in LB?
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,782 ✭✭✭✭

    I'm curious just how bad the toning looks in-hand. Hard to say from the images, but these coins don't strike me as being unattractive.
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  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm curious just how bad the toning looks in-hand. Hard to say from the images, but these coins don't strike me as being unattractive. >>



    It's translucent, golden colored and, unfortunately, uneven in its' distribution. The toning is much more subtle in hand.

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