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Feedback requested on a Barber quarter...

dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
ARC just has so many beautiful coins in their inventory, I image browsing through their website as often as possible.
I came across this 1906-D Barber 25c and would like to hear what some of you who are more familiar with this issue think about it.image
I'm guessing it's even more impressive in-hand and I'm considering it, just waiting to hear back from Brandon...imageimage
image...There's always time for coin collecting. image

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  • Barberman55Barberman55 Posts: 1,605
    The coin is gorgeous and looks very strong for the grade. If I were building a Barber quarter set in MS-64, this coin would certainly be a nice addition to that set. With that being said.........it all comes down to how much of a premium do you want to pay for fantastic eye appeal.
  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That looks like one nice 06-D. Given the color, it looks to me like it sat undisturbed in a cardboard album for 50+ years.

    I'm willing to wager it looks MUCH better in hand. Pricey, yes, but premium material demands it.

    Dave
    Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    dizzyfox,

    As Dan mentioned, if I were working on a MS64 set, I'd be all over that coin.
    The ask price seems very steep though. Hope your offer is accepted.
    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,052 ✭✭✭
    Its just another Toner that needs to be Dipped! imageimage

    TC71

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  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 6,972 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree ... very pretty coin that looks like it sat undisturbed for years ... a premium looking example of a little better date, with a very good strike, and (at least from the picture) unimpared and unbroken luster. High premium, but a winning coin if it has all of that in hand. Hope it works out for you. image

    “We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”

    Todd - BHNC #242
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,395 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A very nice coin, but too much of a premium for me.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I saw this coin in-hand at Baltimore before Adrian bought it and I think it may have looked better "live" than it does in the image. In my opinion, the reverse is an MS65. The real question about this piece is what is it worth to someone? I am not able to answer that for others.
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  • << <i>A very nice coin, but too much of a premium for me. >>




    While it surely is a very nice coin, I don't like the soft strike or the way the toning appears to be disturbed on the neck and under the chin.

    I wouldn't pay a big premium for it either.
  • poorguypoorguy Posts: 4,317


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    << <i>A very nice coin, but too much of a premium for me. >>




    While it surely is a very nice coin, I don't like the soft strike or the way the toning appears to be disturbed on the neck and under the chin.

    I wouldn't pay a big premium for it either. >>



    It actually has a pretty darn good strike for the issue and does look MUCH better in-hand than in the image. Some coins just cannot be done justice by a mere 2-dimensional image. The toning is not "disturbed". That is the pattern of toning that it developed over time. What caused that area is hard to say. It could be anything from a surface that rested against it or simply it being placed into an album by someone who pushed it in with their finger and the oil from their skin kept that particular area from toning deeper than the areas around it. It's not all that uncommon.

    Also, I did send it to John for a better price than what it was listed for. It is perfectly acceptable to ask for a better price and I actually encourage those interested in our coins to give us a call and ask about pricing. Notice on our website instead of 'Price" we have "Asking Price". image John is a good man and a straight shooter and I enjoy doing business with him and I envy his enthusiasm about coins.
    Brandon Kelley - ANA - 972.746.9193 - http://www.bestofyesterdaycollectibles.com
  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>A very nice coin, but too much of a premium for me. >>




    While it surely is a very nice coin, I don't like the soft strike or the way the toning appears to be disturbed on the neck and under the chin.

    I wouldn't pay a big premium for it either. >>



    It actually has a pretty darn good strike for the issue and does look MUCH better in-hand than in the image. Some coins just cannot be done justice by a mere 2-dimensional image. The toning is not "disturbed". That is the pattern of toning that it developed over time. What caused that area is hard to say. It could be anything from a surface that rested against it or simply it being placed into an album by someone who pushed it in with their finger and the oil from their skin kept that particular area from toning deeper than the areas around it. It's not all that uncommon.

    Also, I did send it to John for a better price than what it was listed for. It is perfectly acceptable to ask for a better price and I actually encourage those interested in our coins to give us a call and ask about pricing. Notice on our website instead of 'Price" we have "Asking Price". image John is a good man and a straight shooter and I enjoy doing business with him and I envy his enthusiasm about coins. >>



    Brandon's images are some of the best around and I must say, as good as his images are on this 1906-D Barber Quarter, the actual coin is far superior. The strike is very strong, the luster is intense, and the color is mesmerizing -Which adds up to image eye-appeal.
    As far as Barber Quarters are concerned in general and how they are typically encountered in any date or mint mark, I will comfortably call this 1906-D example an "Elk" ...Which is way above your average "Buck" but not quite in the "Moose" category.image
    Seriously though, it is an incredible coin by any standards. I also really like the fact that this was the first year this type was struck at Denver, the opening year for this Mint.image

    P.S. Brandon, thanks for the kind words and the feeling is undeniably mutual.
    P.S.S. image and as far as your imageimage
    image...There's always time for coin collecting. image
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As a rule, I don't pay huge premiums for essentially common date coins. It comes down to what is it worth to the buyer. For me, the coin would have to be a technical 64++ and know in my heart it could eventually upgrade. To me it comes down to the technical marks on the figure and fields. One can only assess that in hand.
    The rest of the coin looks fine.


    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • BigE2BigE2 Posts: 1,037
    Man! I get a stiffy just looking a coins like that!
  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin! A little high on the price.

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162
    "SUPER" example! Congrat'simage
  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭
    We owned that coin a year ago. It's very very nice. Super eye appeal. Better than ARC's pictures. I think any discerning collector would be very happy with it in their very choice to gem set.

    Our less than steller pictures:



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  • morgannut2morgannut2 Posts: 4,293


    << <i>As a rule, I don't pay huge premiums for essentially common date coins. It comes down to what is it worth to the buyer. For me, the coin would have to be a technical 64++ and know in my heart it could eventually upgrade. To me it comes down to the technical marks on the figure and fields. One can only assess that in hand.
    The rest of the coin looks fine.


    roadrunner >>


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    image---Basically I'd have to be confident in my own mind that the coin was really a gem. I just don't go for paying big premiums for later series common date examples unless they are fully gem quality. On eye appeal, it merits evaluation in hand.
    morgannut2
  • "Brandon's images are some of the best around and I must say, as good as his images are on this 1906-D Barber Quarter, the actual coin is far superior. The strike is very strong"




    I agree that they have very good images--that's why I disagree about the strike.

    Look at the eagle's claw around the arrows, the arrows themselves and, on the obverse, the star adjacent to Ms Liberty's chin. If you think this is a strongly struck coin, I have some oceanfront property in Arizona I like to sell you!


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    "Notice on our website instead of 'Price" we have "Asking Price"."




    I noticed that--I have never seen it elsewhere in a coin dealer's listing and, frankly speaking, it seems stupid to me!~




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    I don't mean to pick on these guys, they are good folks who have some amazing coins.

    Query whether is is fair or appropriate for a potential buyer to post a coin here for everyone to take a shot at it?? Meethinks not.

    MBT
  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭


    << <i>"Brandon's images are some of the best around and I must say, as good as his images are on this 1906-D Barber Quarter, the actual coin is far superior. The strike is very strong"




    I agree that they have very good images--that's why I disagree about the strike.

    Look at the eagle's claw around the arrows, the arrows themselves and, on the obverse, the star adjacent to Ms Liberty's chin. If you think this is a strongly struck coin, I have some oceanfront property in Arizona I like to sell you!


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    "Notice on our website instead of 'Price" we have "Asking Price"."




    I noticed that--I have never seen it elsewhere in a coin dealer's listing and, frankly speaking, it seems stupid to me!~




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    I don't mean to pick on these guys, they are good folks who have some amazing coins.

    Query whether is is fair or appropriate for a potential buyer to post a coin here for everyone to take a shot at it?? Meethinks not.

    MBT >>



    First of all "bigtime" the strike is extremely strong, but thanks for your detailed analasys of the image.image

    Second, if a dealer wants to encourage offers on their website, there's nothing "stupid" about it. Frankly, I think it's a little image to think otherwise.imageimage

    Third, to post a coin on the forum, especially of this caliber of eye appeal and technical strength, is what this forum is all about. The only replies, that I believe you're calling "a shot", that carry any "weight" in my opinion, are valid critiques. Any thing else is just simply "chuckled away".

    And lastly, you can keep your ocean front property in Arizona, but I'm sort of thinking you would have been better off spending that money on nice toned coins.imageimageimage
    image...There's always time for coin collecting. image
  • "First of all "bigtime" the strike is extremely strong"


    If you say so "dizzy"--but still looks "soft" to me. These are not ordinarily seen well struck, and this is no exception IMO. If you like it so much, why not just buy it rather that put it on parade here!




    "Second, if a dealer wants to encourage offers on their website, there's nothing "stupid" about it. Frankly, I think it's a little to think otherwise."


    I agree there's nothing wrong with encouraging offers---but the term "asking price" sounds dumb to me--this ain't real estate!




    "Third, to post a coin on the forum, especially of this caliber of eye appeal and technical strength, is what this forum is all about. The only replies, that I believe you're calling "a shot", that carry any "weight" in my opinion, are valid critiques. Any thing else is just simply "chuckled away".


    We disagree--I don't think it is fair to the seller for a prospective buyer like you to parade a potential purchase on these forums. The prospective buyer should be able to make his/her own desision without the parade. Valid critiques that, as you say, carry "weight", are likely to discourage a purchase and thus are unfair to the seller IMO. Gonna buy it or not?




    "And lastly, you can keep your ocean front property in Arizona, but I'm sort of thinking you would have been better off spending that money on nice toned coins."


    I, too, like toned coins and have been acquiring them for over 45 years, mostly well struck and without outrageous premiums.

  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭


    << <i>"First of all "bigtime" the strike is extremely strong"


    If you say so "dizzy"--but still looks "soft" to me. These are not ordinarily seen well struck, and this is no exception IMO. If you like it so much, why not just buy it rather that put it on parade here!




    "Second, if a dealer wants to encourage offers on their website, there's nothing "stupid" about it. Frankly, I think it's a little to think otherwise."


    I agree there's nothing wrong with encouraging offers---but the term "asking price" sounds dumb to me--this ain't real estate!




    "Third, to post a coin on the forum, especially of this caliber of eye appeal and technical strength, is what this forum is all about. The only replies, that I believe you're calling "a shot", that carry any "weight" in my opinion, are valid critiques. Any thing else is just simply "chuckled away".


    We disagree--I don't think it is fair to the seller for a prospective buyer like you to parade a potential purchase on these forums. The prospective buyer should be able to make his/her own desision without the parade. Valid critiques that, as you say, carry "weight", are likely to discourage a purchase and thus are unfair to the seller IMO. Gonna buy it or not?




    "And lastly, you can keep your ocean front property in Arizona, but I'm sort of thinking you would have been better off spending that money on nice toned coins."


    I, too, like toned coins and have been acquiring them for over 45 years, mostly well struck and without outrageous premiums. >>



    Fair enough MBT. Rather than break everything down with individual replies, I'll just say image on some points and we'll just have to agree to disagree on other points.
    But to answer your question... <Gonna buy it or not?> the answer is imageimage
    image...There's always time for coin collecting. image


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    Fair enough MBT. Rather than break everything down with individual replies, I'll just say image on some points and we'll just have to agree to disagree on other points.
    But to answer your question... <Gonna buy it or not?> the answer is imageimage >>





    So, ya' sucked upto the bar and put your money on the table! Betcha' ya' didn't pay no "askin' price"!

    Congrats on your purchase!!
  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,430 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats on your purchase Dizzyfoxx, it looks like it will be right at home with your collection of toiners.image

    Chris
    My Lincoln Registry
    My Collection of Old Holders

    Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
  • Congratulations on what I think, and very strongly so, is a beautiful coin. I've been eyeing that coin for quite some time and I think you made a very good purchase. I think anyone would be hard pressed to find another so beautifully toned and overall, so well balanced.
  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162
    image A very nice "Add" to your collection John!image

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