1923 VAM 2A ..... got my first new VAM designation from Leroy

Crazy4Coins

I posted this a few weeks back after finding at a small local show.

Here is what Leroy had to say:

23 P - New VAM 2A. "A nice large unlisted die break on the eagle's left wing! A Top 50 Peace $ that I always thought was a neat spectacular dbld die."

1923 P
2A II 2, B2a (Doubled Rays,Die Break Wing) I-2 R-6
Reverse B2a - long die break in middle of eagle's left wing

jdsinva

1922 v2E?

Crazy4Coins

nope....

Crazy4Coins

Rob,

Have you seen this break before?

Rampage

I've seen that break before. It is not 2E, because the break is too high I think. Cool coin.

RobJoyce1921dVAMguy

Nope, got me!

Nice break.

Rob

Crazy4Coins

Here's the obverse...

messydesk

Interesting. Looks like it would be 1923 VAM 2A!

Peaceman

WOW is that a cool coin or what.... off to Leroy with it and see what he comes back with.....

Coxe

Cool! My VAM-2 doesn't have a crippled eagle.

greghansen

None of my 3 VAM-2's have a hint of a wing break. That's the find of the year IMO. Wow. Naked eye doubling on the obverse and a naked eye die break on the reverse. Congratulations!

nesvt

Very nice! That should get a new designation, right? Great find!!!

Crazy4Coins

I also had sent in another coin with '23, 2A. It also recieved a new VAM designation:

1922 P

46 II 16 , B1a (tripled Designer's Initial,Doubled D-E TR) I-2 R-5
Obverse II 16 - Tripled designer's initials towards date. Slightly doubled upper right inside of D, bottom of E bars and bottom of TR in TRVST.

Coxe

Excellent, Randy. The peace die breaks should really take off to with the new edition of the Top-50 guide later this year. Jeff said particular attention was being made to them.

Tripled designer initials? I am surprised and will have to send some candidates in too of other dates. (Just mailed another box to Leroy an hour or so ago though.) I largely dismissed many as mechanical doubling, which most probably are and may all of mine. But you never know as yours is testament of that.

Steve27

Congrats!

eyoung429

Good Job and excellent find!!!!!

VamGuy

That's an awesome discovery Randy. Frankly, I think the I-2 R-6 is a crock of shiznit. A die break like that is one of the most interesting and most desired by VAM collectors. I'm sure any one of you on these boards would agree. It should have been at least an I-3 with a shot at I-4.

Rampage

Congratulations! Neat coin.

Peaceman

Randy, Nice again to see a new significant find out there. Leroy pegged the # I think calling it a 2A.. as it IS a VAM 2, just in an ULDS form. Congrats again... so how long will it be when another is found....

Crazy4Coins

...times up.

I already found another .... NGC MS63

nesvt

Super! I remember seeing this when it first posted. Great looking break! Congrats!




<< <i>Just mailed another box to Leroy an hour or so ago though. >>


John, any news on the 21-P yet?

messydesk

<< <i>Excellent, Randy. The peace die breaks should really take off to with the new edition of the Top-50 guide later this year. Jeff said particular attention was being made to them. >>


Cool discovery! We'll see how it stands up against others for the 2006 "Discovery of the Year" award. The next iteration of the Top 50 guide will probably increase coverage of die stages of these die break coins. As always, more information about these coins will lead to more attention being paid to them.

Coxe

<< <i>Super! I remember seeing this when it first posted. Great looking break! Congrats!




<< <i>Just mailed another box to Leroy an hour or so ago though. >>


John, any news on the 21-P yet? >>



Norm, that was someone else's 21-P. However, I doo have a 21-P out to him with die filing lines from the denticles. There some really cool ones in this box, one in particular, but we'll wait to hear back from Leroy. -- John C

nesvt

<< <i>Norm, that was someone else's 21-P. However, I doo have a 21-P out to him with die filing lines from the denticles. There some really cool ones in this box, one in particular, but we'll wait to hear back from Leroy. -- John C >>



Thanks John. Terry/MAD4MORGANS informed me that my 21-P is a 3W. Good luck with your stuff!