Question for sellers: shipping to unconfirmed address with Paypal
Kurtman9
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We're talking about a $150 card that I recently listed on ebay. The buyer has feedback of 1700+ with a 99.7% rating. Is it advisable to just ignore the risk and accept payment and ship to the unconfirmed address?
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If you do I would ship it registered mail, that way there is no way he can deny getting it. If he files with Paypal I would file mail fraud on him.
If you do I would ship it registered mail, that way there is no way he can deny getting it. If he files with Paypal I would file mail fraud on him.
You might want to read this ...
Unconfirmed address
Have not heard back.
My auctions state that you need to be confirmed thru paypal.
But I don't worry about that anymore since I dumped Paypal altogether. Never been happier as a seller since then either.
now to refund this guy his money unless someone here can vouch for him...
Link.....3 listings at 41.00 each.
Bosox1976
Just went into my preferences on Paypal and changed them to where someone that is NOT confirmed cannot even pay me!
Where at in Paypal did you find it?
click on profiles (tab on top right)
then choose payment receiving preferences. check options you want.
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Verified refers to bank account (not the account holder's address). paypal makes those cents deposit in your bank and you tell paypal th exact amount deposited and when you put in the correct amount you're verified. If unverfied buyer cannot pay using bank transfer only card payments.
So Paypal verified and Paypal confirmed address are totally different.
You don't have any seller's protection if you ship to unconfirmed address.
I'm certainly not shipping until I hear something back.
Vintage Football Card Gallery
I have a PO Box and I am confirmed.
How?
<< <i>the final straw for me came when they did a chargeback in January for an item I sold in September of 2005. >>
Let's hear some more about this if you don't mind.
That was the second time they have done something like that to me first they froze my account for 6 months with 400.00 dollars in it, because I had recieved a payment from a buyer who was scamming buyers on Ebay then using the money he was buying items. I finally got all my money back, but was a big headache.
<< <i>Actually you can get a confirmed address through Paypal without a Credit Card now
How? >>
I'm thought this only applies to a second address.
MarkJ, from what I understand is that if you want to confirm another address (let say a work address) you have to submit to Paypal some proof before they confirmed that address. I don't know the requirements you have to call them.
<< the final straw for me came when they did a chargeback in January for an item I sold in September of 2005. >>
Did you use DC? Keep DC receipt for proof.
<< <i>Simple sold an 85.00 dollar comic book on September 12th 2005. Buyer paid via Paypal on the 14th. He said he recieved the comic and left positive feedback on Sept 21st. On January 9th 2006 I got an email from Paypal saying that he had reported to his Credit Card company that he had not recieved the item and they were holding the money until I could prove he recieved it. The DC # which I still had was no longer available on the USPS site so there was no online proof for Paypal to have, they then deducted the money they lost from the CC company from my account.
That was the second time they have done something like that to me first they froze my account for 6 months with 400.00 dollars in it, because I had recieved a payment from a buyer who was scamming buyers on Ebay then using the money he was buying items. I finally got all my money back, but was a big headache. >>
Wizard, Call paypal and Fax Paypal your DC receipt. Tell them USPS keeps record online for 3-4 months and also tell them that the buyer left you FB that item was received. Probably that buyer of yours knew that USPS takes off the online tracking after a certain time. Ask USPS if they keep tracking offline.
that's a load of crap! you got hosed!
what credit card was it...do you know? Someone on the coin forum got hosed out of a few thousand in a very similar manner!
Paypal does not care according to the Protection Plan the tracking has to be trackable online, if it is not then there then Paypal will not protect you. Most Credit cards have a 6 month claim period. I heard a similar story where the Chargeback came back over a year later
<< <i>Wizard, Call paypal and Fax Paypal your DC receipt. Tell them USPS keeps record online for 3-4 months and also tell them that the buyer left you FB that item was received. Probably that buyer of yours knew that USPS takes off the online tracking after a certain time. Ask USPS if they keep tracking offline.
Paypal does not care according to the Protection Plan the tracking has to be trackable online, if it is not then there then Paypal will not protect you. Most Credit cards have a 6 month claim period. I heard a similar story where the Chargeback came back over a year later >>
see now that's a load of crap on Paypal's part and one that someone will certainly take issue with at some point.
If you insure an item for 100.00 and up.....it must be signed for.
If you use registered mail...it must be signed by all USPS employees (much like evidence) and by the person receiving it.
If you use Overnite mail......it must be signed for.
etc...etc......
Delivery confirmation is probably THE most UNsafe "proof" of delivery that exists. It does nothing other than show that the item was delivered Somewhere.
There was a guy on one of the Ebay message boards who sold an item for 175.00 he got insurance, his PO told him that you cannot put DC or SC on an insured package(which is not true). The buyer claimed he never got it even though the insurance signature says otherwise. It is not viewable online so Paypal sided with the buyer.
I don't know if it has changed but the first line of Paypal's SELLERS protection plan at one time stated "The SPP is designed to help protect buyers from fraudlent sellers."
how dare anyone expect that they might have to pick up a phone and call a PO to check the status on an item that was shipped via another method.
the first time I get hosed on there will be the last. I will close my account and never accept it again.
I have a separate checking account SOLELY for paypal that I do not even use for anything else. When I get payments I sweep them into the account. When they show up online, I withdraw them or immediately transfer them to another.
<< <i>Wizard, Call paypal and Fax Paypal your DC receipt. Tell them USPS keeps record online for 3-4 months and also tell them that the buyer left you FB that item was received. Probably that buyer of yours knew that USPS takes off the online tracking after a certain time. Ask USPS if they keep tracking offline.
Paypal does not care according to the Protection Plan the tracking has to be trackable online, if it is not then there then Paypal will not protect you. Most Credit cards have a 6 month claim period. I heard a similar story where the Chargeback came back over a year later >>
Call Paypal and explain to them that USPS keeps online tracking less than 6 months. I asked PO clerk before and said they keep it online about 3-4 months and then they take it off (not sure if available offline). It's better to talk to a live customer support and explain to them that you mailed, give/fax them proof (postal receipt and DC receipt) and point out that USPS don't keep tracking# information online that long and also that buyer left you FB that item was received.
Here's some phone numbers. Give them a call
(877) 672-9725 1-877-6-paypal
(888) 221-1161 help center
(402) 537-5740 (fax)
(402) 935-2258 Craig, complaints resolution manager
(866) 272-9725
(800) 836-1859 Premier Account Holders
(650) 251-1100
(402) 935-2000
(402) 935-2001
(402) 935-2062
(402) 935-7733
I am betting the buyer waited until the number was pulled from the USPS site then tried it before.
Its ok though I am over and Paypal will never see another dime of my money nor will they ever try to tell me how to run my own business. I dumped their service and have never been happier as a seller.
This is BS... I mail over 50 items a month and I always use DC and SC with insurance ( over 50.00 and up) . If I am ever asked why I do it... I always say that DC and SC can be tracked on line and insurance can't.
Never had a problem! I have been told many times by the Postal Clerk that I didn't need both.
It's worth the time and trouble to add the DC.
and yes, you can track registered online.
Paypal gives buyers 60 days to launch a claim through them which that can get into even more horror stories. There have been numerous claims where a seller shipped an item claimed it was broke or whatever, Paypal freezes the money in the sellers account and has the buyer return the item with DC when the DC shows the item is delivered to the seller Paypal will unfreeze the money and return it to the buyer. The seller in the mean time opens the package he just recieved and it is either empty or contains a rock or anything like that.