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Mr Russ....need some of your knowledge.

grabbagrabba Posts: 1,251
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Saw this coin on ebay last night and I thought I would post it here to see what you knew about it. According to the owner it is an inverted mintmark and there are only 6 known. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Is it in the cherrypickers guide? Or the Wiles book?
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Interesting. The mintmark actually does look inverted. I've never heard of this, though, and there's nothing in Wiles' book about it.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,685 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I saw that auction too. The mintmark definitely does look upside-down. I recall a few years back someone wrote up an article for ErrorScope listing the known inverted-S mintmarks (it might even have been Bill Fivaz), maybe someone with an organized set of back-issues can look it up for you there.


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • vaq45vaq45 Posts: 212
    I just looked at my 68 proof set and what do ya know--I got an inverted "S" too--
  • rlawsharlawsha Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭
    LINK
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Additional Info

    peacockcoins

  • rsdoug81rsdoug81 Posts: 682 ✭✭
    It's unfortunate that the coin is not still in mint packaging. With five known...I wouldn't risk my money on a raw one.
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,960 ✭✭✭


    << <i><a class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.pcgs.com/articles/article622.chtml" target=blank>Additional Info</A> >>



    Maybe since this came from a PCGS article they might actually attribute it on the slab.
  • grabbagrabba Posts: 1,251


    << <i>LINK >>



    Thanks. I was trying to fix the code to post a link but I saw you had laready posted it.

    When Russ and MM doesn't know about a certain Kennedy then we are all in trouble. image

  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've been looking for this one for years. Numismatic News ran a story on this about
    eight or ten years ago but at that time all known examples (6) belonged to the same
    guy (out east) who got them in a mint package.
    Tempus fugit.
  • ledzep87ledzep87 Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭
    As far as I am concerned about JFKs, if Russ does not know about it, something IS wrong.
    Great transaction with: Relaxn, Collectorcoins, OKCC
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    If it has an FS# then I care!!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • eyoung429eyoung429 Posts: 6,374 ✭
    Well, the cat's out of the bag on this one.....better set your snipes to "NUKE"....I can see this hitting $180 before Sunday night.
    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

    Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
  • grabbagrabba Posts: 1,251


    << <i>Well, the cat's out of the bag on this one.....better set your snipes to "NUKE"....I can see this hitting $180 before Sunday night. >>



    lol...Maybe I should have kept my trap shut!

  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    There is no way I'm bidding on it, I want mine in DCAM!!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    vaq45, was that a joke? because yours makes seven known image
  • ledzep87ledzep87 Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭
    HEY, who out bid me?

    Now it is over $68.

    Just kidding. image
    Great transaction with: Relaxn, Collectorcoins, OKCC
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Well, I just checked my extensive stock of 1968 proof sets, (one), and no joy.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374 ✭
    Great find and great pix......................image
    ......Larry........image
  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,580 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just bid $400 and got outbid right away. image/
    "I'll split the atom! I am the fifth dimension! I am the eighth wonder of the world!" -Gef the talking mongoose.
  • Rob41281Rob41281 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭✭✭
    you are high bidder, you just outbid my 300$. reserve hasnt been met tho.

    http://www.ebay.com/sch/rs8199/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=

  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    it is confirmed. if you really want the coin, do not dare
    mention it around here. too many wolves in sheep's clothing
    eh?
  • grabbagrabba Posts: 1,251


    << <i>it is confirmed. if you really want the coin, do not dare
    mention it around here. too many wolves in sheep's clothing
    eh? >>



    lol...for sure.
  • PhillyJoePhillyJoe Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭✭
    This will one will get a lot of action, but my robot just started saying "Danger, Will Robinson!". (Those of you born after 1964 won't have a clue what I'm talking about, but that's OK).

    When someone uses a pretty rare coin for their first ebay listing and the total feedback is only 20, I pass.


    Joe
    The Philadelphia Mint: making coins since 1792. We make money by making money. Now in our 225th year thanks to no competition. image
  • BigTomBigTom Posts: 305 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This will one will get a lot of action, but my robot just started saying "Danger, Will Robinson!". (Those of you born after 1964 won't have a clue what I'm talking about, but that's OK).

    When someone uses a pretty rare coin for their first ebay listing and the total feedback is only 20, I pass.


    Joe >>



    AMEN BROTHER!
  • GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374 ✭
    Wow ....the posting of the coin on this forum has increased the bidding within a few minutes.......amazing............
    ......Larry........image
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    I'll check the 1500 or so 1968 proof sets I have at home this weekend!!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>When someone uses a pretty rare coin for their first ebay listing and the total feedback is only 20, I pass. >>



    Yep, and private bidding to boot.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • vaq45vaq45 Posts: 212
    yes FC it really does look inverted--when i get home i will put it under my microscope--i only have a 5x with me here at work
  • PhillyJoePhillyJoe Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'll check the 1500 or so 1968 proof sets I have at home this weekend!! >>




    Maybe I should edit my response about this being a "rare" coin. image

    Joe
    The Philadelphia Mint: making coins since 1792. We make money by making money. Now in our 225th year thanks to no competition. image
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,685 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I'll check the 1500 or so 1968 proof sets I have at home this weekend!! >>




    Maybe I should edit my response about this being a "rare" coin. image

    Joe >>



    It's "rare" now mainly because no one has been looking for it. The 1914/3 Bufalo nickels were "rare" when they wre first discovered but look at how many there are now.

    That said, I've read John Wexler say that proof dies from the 1960s would only strike in the neighborhood of 3,000 to 5,000 coins before wearing out and being retired. Since mintmarks were punched on the individual dies by hand, it is conceivable that only 3,000 or so examples of this variety were ever minted, which would make it legitimately scarce.


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,694 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I'll check the 1500 or so 1968 proof sets I have at home this weekend!! >>




    Maybe I should edit my response about this being a "rare" coin. image

    Joe >>



    It's "rare" now mainly because no one has been looking for it. The 1914/3 Bufalo nickels were "rare" when they wre first discovered but look at how many there are now.

    That said, I've read John Wexler say that proof dies from the 1960s would only strike in the neighborhood of 3,000 to 5,000 coins before wearing out and being retired. Since mintmarks were punched on the individual dies by hand, it is conceivable that only 3,000 or so examples of this variety were ever minted, which would make it legitimately scarce.


    Sean Reynolds >>



    I'd bet it's scarcer than this. I've looked at around 500 sets in the last eight years and
    haven't seen one. No doubt a few thousand sets were checked when they ran the story
    and there were no reports of more. I'd bet there are fewer than 1,000 in existence.
    Tempus fugit.
  • CoindexterCoindexter Posts: 1,074
    I have become a bit cynical sice hanging around here with regards to ebay auctions...

    Did anyone else notice that the article posted on pcgs.com offers images if you email the author? I wonder if one of those images just happens to be the auction image....

    Really cynical, I know. I don't actually think it's true - but I wouldn't be suprised.
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    the auction and this thread both smell fishy

    lead the stupid, they always follow. image
    image

    Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
  • morgannut2morgannut2 Posts: 4,293 ✭


    << <i>If it has an FS# then I care!! >>

    -
    ---
    I'm sure the FS-# will be in your new edition to be mailed Apriil 1, 2002---image
    morgannut2
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>If it has an FS# then I care!! >>

    -
    ---
    I'm sure the FS-# will be in your new edition to be mailed Apriil 1, 2002---image >>



    never mind the 1 I paid for years ago, I now want 4 JT

    I KNOW YOUR SORRY ASS IS OUT THERE SOMEWHERE

    ^and yes that was called for IMHO image
    image

    Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
  • TouchdownTouchdown Posts: 233 ✭


    Can anyone recall any other coin with a reverted mint mark.

    I beleive I heard of it before but I don't think it was this coin.
  • TWODOGSTWODOGS Posts: 1,419


    << <i>Can anyone recall any other coin with a reverted mint mark.

    I beleive I heard of it before but I don't think it was this coin. >>

    1941-S Jefferson nickel is one.
    J.C.
    *******************************************************************************

    imageimageSee ya on the other side, Dudes. image
  • BigTomBigTom Posts: 305 ✭✭✭
    No new info generated over the weekend?

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