Carl Pavano
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-- Yogi Berra
maybe someone can explain this one for me.
Steve
Any other team would be completely sunk if they had signed a guy like this, who has completely bombed. But the yankees and their infinite payroll can just cover it up with another big contract.
wha wha wha.
1 million wha wha's and counting.
Steve
Please tell me I am wrong. Please tell me that if a small market team signed a player like this, that they'd be completely screwed otherwise? It's this type of uncertainty which drives small market teams to release their super stars, i.e. they get hurt, and the team has no way to overcome it.
het did you ever see that you were schooled regarding jeter? he did not have the most opportunities in the P.O like you claimed.
jeese you make it too easy.
diaper needs changing?
Steve
Please address the question at hand. I know you suffer from ADD, so I'll ask again.
How would a small market team be able to react to an injury to player making that much money? Would they (a) go out and sign another high priced free agent? (b) do nothing because they can't afford to? (c) not sign the player in the first place because if such an injury occured it could ruin the franchise.
Now, please stay on topic, and quit deviating.
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no thanks.
You are not worth the effort. You will get proved wrong (again) and then either twist it or hide.
On topic? the topic is Pavano and some stupid emoticon.
Steve
I am waiting for your answer, and Jeter DOES have the most career postseason at bats in baseball history. Perhaps this link would help your tiny little brain understand:
Link for WP
to prove you are a liar:
this is what i answered to.
thebobs-
we appreciate your attempts at derailing threads. If you really wish to have that conversation, send me a PM.
And no one has ever stated Jeter sucks, just that he receives much undue media attention for being 'clutch' (while the truth of the matter is he's just had more postseason opportunities than anyone - ever).
Opportuities if you do not know would include WALKS, Hit by pitch, Sac's etc etc etc.
The answer is bernie williams.
now typically youlamely twist it to say at bats. and even there you are WRONG cuz he is TIED with Williams.
Talk about having a pea brain.
go back and read what you said.
schooling you is getting boring.
PS thanks for providing the link, that way you just proved how stupid you are.
Steve
<< <i> WP-
Please show me where Jeter isn't the all time leader in post season at bats, please. >>
I used the word opportunities in the first post regarding Jeter and his postseason at bats...please, PLEASE say where I ever said 'postseason plate appearances'?
And just because someone is TIED, they still hold the LEAD.
Talking to you is like talking to a 3 year old...you have no mental capacity whatsoever!
we appreciate your attempts at derailing threads. If you really wish to have that conversation, send me a PM.
And no one has ever stated Jeter sucks, just that he receives much undue media attention for being 'clutch' (while the truth of the matter is he's just had more postseason opportunities than anyone - ever).
I rest my case.
hey dopey in case you did not know, when you say ANYONE it mean s no one else. Even if I buy the malarky that you meant atbats you are WRONG there too.
now go away.
Steve
What a disaster. 17 games last year for $9 million. $8 million this year with no starts.
Another great pitcher picked up by the yankees. First it was Kevin Brown, then Jaret Wright and Pavano...now little unit is done. Is there any limit to the amount of money the yankees will pay to washed up pitchers?
<< <i>Carl Pavano, back on topic.
What a disaster. 17 games last year for $9 million. $8 million this year with no starts.
Another great pitcher picked up by the yankees. First it was Kevin Brown, then Jaret Wright and Pavano...now little unit is done. Is there any limit to the amount of money the yankees will pay to washed up pitchers? >>
Yes because we know other teams like the Mariners are spending their money wisely
Jaime Moyer and how old is this guy? how dare a team sign a guy this age???
1-4 record
Jarrod Washburn yeah, he was a great signing...did he go cheap?
2-5 record
Felix Hernandez was there someone who predicted this guy as this years cy young?
2-5 record with an era over 5.00
Pot meet kettle.
<< <i>
Yes because we know other teams like the Mariners are spending their money wisely
Jaime Moyer and how old is this guy? how dare a team sign a guy this age???
1-4 record
Jarrod Washburn yeah, he was a great signing...did he go cheap?
2-5 record
Felix Hernandez was there someone who predicted this guy as this years cy young?
2-5 record with an era over 5.00
Pot meet kettle. >>
Hmm let's see how your comparison holds up. I mentioned yankee pitchers who are each making in excess of 8 million a year. Let's see how many of these Mariner pitchers are making that kind of coin.
Washburn is making less than any of the yankee pitchers I mentioned, has a 3.81 ERA and a .234 BAA.
Jamie Moyer is making 5.5 million this year, has a 3.72 ERA.
Felix is making 340k this year.
So where's your point, sparky? That the yankees have grossly overpaid for guys that have worse numbers than Mariner pitchers making far less money than they have?
Flawed analogy. Try again next time.
Time and time again it has been proven that it doesnt matter how much money a team spends, it doesnt guarantee success.
But if you do want to talk pitching money, its funny that you forget to mention Pineiro's salary of 6.8 million and Washburns of nearly 7.5 million.
So the Yankees pay one guy 8 million(who has been injured all season) and 2 big contracts to Johnson and Mussina. But they also have Wang making only the 353K and Chacon at only 3.6 million.
So keep twisting and turning this how you want it. Your whining about salaries is a weak, weak arguement....and a tiresome arguement that holds no water.
And to further disprove you, the Yankees collective team ERA KILLS the Mariners team ERA as well as a good share of others in MLB.
I have no idea why I continue to disprove this MORON. Is there any way to turn off anyone's posts so you dont have to read them? I enjoy the good, thought out posts that discuss baseball...just would like to weed out those who know NOTHING about the game and make these ridiculous claims.
Anyone should be ashamed to be happy about an athelete's injuries or health problems.
Would you like it if someone laughed at you because you were in a car accident and couldnt perform your job?
Classless.
you want to whine and cry, but no one, and I mean NO ONE was applauding someone getting injured.
I was commenting on the yankees' situation, as they apparently have nothing left in the well (i.e. the farm system) to supplement their dwindling numbers at the big league level.
<< <i>yankeeno-
you want to whine and cry, but no one, and I mean NO ONE was applauding someone getting injured.
I was commenting on the yankees' situation, as they apparently have nothing left in the well (i.e. the farm system) to supplement their dwindling numbers at the big league level. >>
Hey STOONOD
Look at the very first post on this thread. THAT's what I'm talking about.
And is every other team in MLB flourishing with an excess of good pitching in their farm system? NO. Of course not because there is a HUGE shortage of good pitching all through MLB.
And people wonder why the Yankees, Mets, and Red Sox appear to be the center of the MLB universe...because it's people like all of the fore-mentioned haters that make it so!
Cementhead has trouble with words like someone, anyone and now no one.
he/she thinks every post is directed at her thus she feels obligated to reply.
ANYONE other then a cement head would have seen that you were refering to the very first post with those silly laughing icons.
except of course dopey.
Steve
edited to add: stoonad.........lol good one. yeah he is a real struntza.
<< <i>Hey STOONOD
Look at the very first post on this thread. THAT's what I'm talking about. >>
connecticoin is just another in a LONG line of tools who like to put their 1/2 cent in and then run like a little si$$y mary. You wouldn't see a Yankee fan around here laughing like a fu$king IDIOT if a Red Sox went down.
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<< <i>Apparently you are counting, WP.
Please tell me I am wrong. Please tell me that if a small market team signed a player like this, that they'd be completely screwed otherwise? It's this type of uncertainty which drives small market teams to release their super stars, i.e. they get hurt, and the team has no way to overcome it. >>
You realize though that the majority of Major League teams would rather get a check than write one. There isn't a poor owner out there, but there are owners who are mighty cheap.
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<< <i>lol was he worth the wait? >>
No, but I tell you what really struck home from todays game, Scott Kasmir is going to be a great pitcher. He has great stuff. Now who was the last Mets starting pitcher that came from its farm system to amount to a hill of beans???
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If you count Isringhausena as a reliever, I guess he'd be about the best they've done in recent years, long-term.
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<< <i>I'd be happy if Pavano could win 12 games and pitch at least 150 fairly effective innings this year. If he can keep the ERA below 4.00, it gives the Yankees a chance to win games. Actually, it doesnt matter how many wins he gets...its the end result of the games he pitches. >>
Hmmmm, sounds like a Josh Beckett apologist
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