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The long-struggling Shop At Home Network, the television broadcast filmed in Nashville, is going dark.

The E.W. Scripps Co., which began investing in the network four years ago, announced this morning it would cease operations for both the television programming and Web site June 22, amid ongoing operating losses and the lack of a suitable buyer.




The network has 660 full-time employees in Nashville. A Scripps spokesman had earlier given a smaller number for the size of the Nashville workforce. The company said employees would get severance packages and career transition services.

Cincinnati-based Scripps had announced earlier that it was shopping the network, looking for a buyer.

“This is not the outcome we had hoped for when we acquired Shop At Home nearly four years ago,” Kenneth W. Lowe, president and chief executive officer for Scripps, said in a statement. “Despite the best efforts and fine work of many dedicated people, Shop At Home was unable to surmount some fundamental weaknesses that have blocked its path to profitability. I’d like to extend my deepest thanks to all of those who did their best to make this idea work.”

In previous statements, company officials had cited difficulty reaching the homes of Americans for the fourth-ranked home shopping TV network, which goes up against top-ranked QVC and other home shopping television outlets.

The company also said the path to profitability was taking longer than expected.

The E.W. Scripps Co. bought Nashville-based Shop At Home Inc. from shareholders in two transactions valued at $285 million, starting four years ago. It bought complete control of the network two years ago.

The network was operating at a loss when Scripps bought it, and it continued to lose money. Shop At Home has lost $84 million during the last four years.

Executives said five Shop At Home-affiliated television stations would be sold and that programming alternatives were being explored. Those stations are in the San Francisco, Boston, Cleveland, Bridgeport, Conn., and Raleigh-Durham, N.C. markets. They reach about 5 million households.

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  • flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭
    Yes, this is the network that hosts "The Coin Vault" with Robert Chambers and some other dude.

    Well, there goes my late night entertainment...
  • Gonna have to find a new venue to off all that crap !
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    No more Coin Vault? Bummer.

    Russ, NCNE
  • INXSINXS Posts: 1,202
    I am from NJ and get it on COMCAST. The problem, I dont buy here anyway, was that it was only on from midnight to 5 AM on the Korean TV channel. It never had its own channel at least not thru my cable provider.
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  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,059 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Shop At Home was unable to surmount some fundamental weaknesses that have blocked its path to profitability. >>

    Yeah, fundamental weakneffes like being a total and complete scam and rip off. LOL

    If I see that slimy Robert Chambers fweeping the bourfe floor I'm going to drop my hotdog right infront of him and ftep on it image
  • morgannut2morgannut2 Posts: 4,293
    THAT is why I heard Robert Chambers was now selling used gas-hybrid cars at 100% over list price!!!!! He's back to his true callingimage
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  • MrBreezeMrBreeze Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭
    Cladiator,

    No disrespect meant here. Why am I laughing at the fact that you put Fs in for Ss? Every time I read that, and try to say it with the "F" sound, I start laughing. Are you going old school on us?
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,059 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Cladiator,

    No disrespect meant here. Why am I laughing at the fact that you put Fs in for Ss? Every time I read that, and try to say it with the "F" sound, I start laughing. Are you going old school on us? >>

    LOL

    Here ya go. Read this thread and you'll underftand everything image

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  • MrBreezeMrBreeze Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭


    << <i>fweeping the bourfe floor >>



    Every time I say that, I laugh.
  • GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374
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    ...................................There goes all my nightime entertainment ...!!!.Gosh I'm gonna miss them guys...image
    ......Larry........image
  • You have to admit that listening to those Bozos was hilarious. The way they rationalized their prices, especially on their Morgans, got me every time. I REALLY felt sorry for all the novices who bought their misrepresentations as facts. I will miss the laughs....image
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  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    Something tells me we'll be seeing Chambers and co. on another one of the shopping networks soon.
  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,307 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No more Coin Vault!!!

    I guess I'll have to get my ration of comedy at the Comedy Channel from now on.image

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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,431 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fire sale coming up!
    All items marked down from 300% retail to ONLY 225% retail!

    Never will we have this low of a price again!

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    Sealed proof sets will certainly get cheaper. They were paying one of the local guys big wood for 64 sets.
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  • flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭
    Does anyone know what Chambers' eBay ID is? It used to be "titanswinitall", but that seems to have evaporated.
  • SteveSteve Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭
    The Coin Vault was my Monday evening and early morning entertainment show. I'm real sad to hear they will close up soon. I get the feeling that they will reappear on QVC or Home Shopping Network sometime in the future. Robert Chambers is great and Paul Hollis provides a great "sidekick" for the entertainment. Hope they get a regular primetime show to continue to entertain us. Steveimage
  • 09sVDB09sVDB Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭
    As bad as they are, I love watching them for entertainment. I know, get a life!
  • INXSINXS Posts: 1,202
    It was better when he had the girl on with him. I think it was Julie Tello or something like that. At least when she wore a dress there was something to look at. I dont think he will reappear on HSN as that other guy is on there. I havent seen QVC sell coins on TV in along time.
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  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,569 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Yes, this is the network that hosts "The Coin Vault" with Robert Chambers and some other dude.

    Well, there goes my late night entertainment... >>



    Gee, and I thought _I_ have a bunch of junk with no place to sell it....
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  • NicNic Posts: 3,386 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They sold A LOT of coins. K
  • The fact of the matter is many of the people who posted in this thread if givin the opprotunity would sell coins at those levels if they had the buyers for it. Just cuz you can get 30 for a common circ morgan does not make you a crook. If they buyers are buying them then sell them! Now it may not be morally right, but the greed factor kicks in for alot of us. I know for one if I could sell my stuff at really good prices, like they get I would be inclined to try my luck at it. I know some shops will not even buy paper money since thats what thier clients ask for and then some pay 90% of market value to get bills. Every market is different, and so are prices on coins.
  • BigD5BigD5 Posts: 3,433
    Yikes! Who we going to sell all the modern crap to? Proof/Mint sets? Modern Commem's?

    They were the big buyers of that junk, er, I mean great stuff. image
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  • MrKelsoMrKelso Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭
    I am going to miss those two idiots. I watch them all the time, I even purchased an SAE from them in the "New Anacs Holder" just to look at and take a picture of and then i sent it back for a complete refund. Every thing worked out fine.

    It looks like we are now doomed to watching that Jimmy Gerstel guy on Tuesday and Saturday nights for our Coin Laughs. I will have to reset my Tivo when the end comes.

    The next bunch i would love to see go under is HSN and Americas Store Talk about selling crap.


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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,431 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The fact of the matter is many of the people who posted in this thread if givin the opprotunity would sell coins at those levels if they had the buyers for it. Just cuz you can get 30 for a common circ morgan does not make you a crook. If they buyers are buying them then sell them! Now it may not be morally right, but the greed factor kicks in for alot of us. I know for one if I could sell my stuff at really good prices, like they get I would be inclined to try my luck at it. I know some shops will not even buy paper money since thats what thier clients ask for and then some pay 90% of market value to get bills. Every market is different, and so are prices on coins. >>




    Sure, I would love to sell at the prices they do. Difference is that I don't hype stuff the way they do. That makes for all the difference in the world, to me at least. I also wouldn't feel good selling to the uninformed at some of their price levels (ie.....still being sold by the USMint proof sets for 50%+ over the Mint's price).

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • MichiganMichigan Posts: 4,942
    I think people are watching their money more closely these days with gas prices and overall uneasiness about the
    state of the economy etc.

    People are not springing for the credit card for spur of the moment impulse buying like they used to. Just my opinion.
  • MrKelsoMrKelso Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I think people are watching their money more closely these days with gas prices and overall uneasiness about the
    state of the economy etc.

    People are not springing for the credit card for spur of the moment impulse buying like they used to. Just my opinion. >>



    And a good opinion it is, I have a few friends that are in a hurry to pay down there debt right now and get out from under the high rates they are paying.
    Debt is bad, credit card debt is very bad. If you can't pay for it when the bill comes then don't buy it.


    "The silver is mine and the gold is mine,' declares the LORD GOD Almighty."
  • mcmximcmxi Posts: 890
    wonder if i should make my last 4 stretch pays?
    If I was half as smart as I am dumb Iwould be a genious
  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,467 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gee.........I wonder what this will do to NGC's stock?

    Leo

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  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    they moved lots


    they will go somewhere else - maybe the jewelry channel


  • << <i>

    << <i>Cladiator,

    No disrespect meant here. Why am I laughing at the fact that you put Fs in for Ss? Every time I read that, and try to say it with the "F" sound, I start laughing. Are you going old school on us? >>

    LOL

    Here ya go. Read this thread and you'll underftand everything image

    The key is hidden infide here >>



    Heh, I just thught your keyboard was broke. image

    No more $50 2006 clad proof sets. image

    I will miss the late night entertainment, but I'm glad they are one the way out. Now they need to ditch that tall lanky guy that hawks junk on HSN.
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  • TyrockTyrock Posts: 306 ✭✭✭
    Now what am I gonna do for late night entertainment? image
  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭
    I like watching them only to see what the new mint issues look like and hate to admit it but this show was one of the reasons that bought me back into the hobby three years ago. I only purchased two items from them and one was the S.S. Republic coin(sells for half now at what I bough it originally). I still have it and will probably keep it, though it will probably decrease in value. I will miss the entertainment.
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    Bummer
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  • Shop At Home going off the air will be music to the ears of Jimmy Gerstel "Treasure Hunter" Dish Network. Example 1999 Clad Proof set only $139.00----OUCH


  • << <i>

    It looks like we are now doomed to watching that Jimmy Gerstel guy on Tuesday and Saturday nights for our Coin Laughs. I will have to reset my Tivo when the end comes.

    >>



    Is that the guy who's a dead ringer for Sandy Koufax?
  • MrKelsoMrKelso Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Shop At Home going off the air will be music to the ears of Jimmy Gerstel "Treasure Hunter" Dish Network. Example 1999 Clad Proof set only $139.00----OUCH >>



    When Gerstel first hit the air his prices were very low and under all the shopping networks, but now he is in the clouds like the rest of them but he puts on a good show with his on the air antics are good for laughs, and when he teams up with that Barry Chaptel guy, it's a comedy act and a good old fashioned board walk sales pitchman routine. Not $500 not $400 not $300 not $200 Not even $250 image

    Now they have that Laura girl doing the late night stuff and man can she talk non stop.image


    "The silver is mine and the gold is mine,' declares the LORD GOD Almighty."
  • It would be interesting to find out if the coin section (Coin Vault), in particular, was losing money. The way they talk makes it seem that they're selling everything no matter what price the items are being offered. Or, is it all just a big lie?........"While they last." or "Get in on this."
  • I thought Robert Chambers (Coin Vault) merely bought time on Shop at Home ? Maybe he and his crew will reappear on another network ?
  • Well, in watching Coin Vault tonite, straight from Robert Chambers mouth in the first half hour, "Keep watching, Coin Vault will be back, somewhere, somehow".....was there any doubt?
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    The fact of the matter is many of the people who posted in this thread if givin the opprotunity would sell coins at those levels if they had the buyers for it.

    I think most folks here would rather sleep well at night....
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  • Sounds like "downsizing"...err..."rightsizing" to me.

    They probably realized they could get more by selling them on eBay and cutting the cost of the employees payroll.




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  • ERER Posts: 7,345
    Have any of you guys ever seen Chambers at coin shows?
  • TyrockTyrock Posts: 306 ✭✭✭
    Or we can start watching Mike with the white teeth on HSN! image
  • coinmickeycoinmickey Posts: 767 ✭✭
    Or we can start watching Mike with the white teeth on HSN!

    I have to admit I like watching Mike....

    I found Chambers and his sidekick somewhat disturbing, but that's just me. At least I can immediately peg Mike for what he is...a snake oil salesman. I find him to be much slicker and more likeable and unless you pick up on some of his wordsmithing you'd never know that he's selling you stuff that's waaaay overpriced and not rare at all.

    Nevertheless I find both shows to be highly entertaining and I marvel at the sales numbers. These guys are living proof that PT Barnum was absolutely right.
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  • very interesting! thanks, they won't be missed.
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  • Please understand-NO!--Its CRITICAL for you to understand that Me and Allen are going to buy all of Chambers coins and aggrevate the hell out of you by twirling them back and forth to show you our wonderful luster for the whole damn show!--buy one for your daughters divorce-a brothers death or that special occassion that only a terrorist can supply--actually,I watch the rednecks on coin country(channel 227 direct TV) now those guys know how to Sip the moonshine and sell coins.

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