Just won a 1959 Jim Brown PSA 8 for...

gosteelers

$175.99. Was it a good deal? I thought it was pretty good considering SMR is $250. Thoughts?

FYS

<< <i>$175.99. Was it a good deal? I thought it was pretty good considering SMR is $250. Thoughts? >>



You can never go wrong with high grade rookie vintage hall of famers.

For future reference, SMR is not a good judge on whether or not a good deal was achieved.

I know of two recents PSA 8 sales = $230 and $250. You potentially got a good deal, but I think you did because the card is an 01 (old) serial number. If you send it in to PSA to reholder and it still achieves an 8, you could probably easily resell for $230 to $250.

goose3

if you send it in for a "reholder" why or how would it come back as anything other than an "8"?

FYS

<< <i>if you send it in for a "reholder" why or how would it come back as anything other than an "8"? >>



Because it is from an earlier serial number, there is evidence that the card is overgraded. So PSA may not reholder it as an 8 e.g. say it is really a 6 or 7. If that is the case, they should refund some money to the submitter.

If they reholder the card as a 8. The general PSA buying public will have stronger confidence that it is a newer serial number e.g. the dreaded 314 grader and will be more confortable bidding higher e.g. $230-$250.

I would wager money that the fact that the card is an early serial number was the sole reason for the good buy.

goose3

I'm not familiar with how the card process works entirely but assumed that it worked much like the PCGS (Coin) portion of CU

if one sends a coin in for reholder, 5.00 and it gets Reholdered and returned.

to be regraded, one must pay for that specific service which is the cost of a sub I believe....

on coins that is.

phreakydancin

In the case of a reholder, don't you retain the same serial number but get a new flip? Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought to get a new cert # you had to submit it for review.

SKINSFAN

CORRECT IF YOU REHOLDER IT ALL YOU ARE DOING IS JUST THAT REHOLDERING IT. THE CERT STAYS THE SAME.
To get a new cert you would need to crack it and grade it raw ,The 0 cert thing is a little over blown there are many over graded grades that do no start with zero % wise the ones starting with zero may be a little higher,however i find this to be true with the early bowman issues with football and the pre war cards from baseball more then anything

zef204

<< <i>CORRECT IF YOU REHOLDER IT ALL YOU ARE DOING IS JUST THAT REHOLDERING IT. THE CERT STAYS THE SAME.
To get a new cert you would need to crack it and grade it raw ,The 0 cert thing is a little over blown there are many over graded grades that do no start with zero % wise the ones starting with zero may be a little higher,however i find this to be true with the early bowman issues with football and the pre war cards from baseball more then anything >>

I agree. I think they used to be tougher and some "01's" or other old flips are undergraded.

sando69

wow!
that card appears to be a real beauty... front is very nicely centered!
the back appears to have been rubbed...
will psa still grade cards with rubbed backs as 8's or 9's?
is this card perhaps a 9 front & 7 back?

Ahmanfan

It's a 2nd year, by the way.

nice card

fsjeter

<< <i>$175.99. Was it a good deal? I thought it was pretty good considering SMR is $250. Thoughts? >>



That's a pretty good price for his second year card. Nice pick-up too.

Scott

earlycalguy

if you want a new cert. number you could always do a cross over. just request the same grade as min. grade. more than likey it will come back an 8 with a new holder and cert. number since they will owe you money if they say it' now not an 8.

Kurtman9

IMO, the zero cert thing and the perception that they are overgraded is just that: perception and not reality. I have cracked several 0 cert cards (vintage), and received bumps, one from 8 to 10 and 2 from 8 to 9. There are overgraded zero certs and there are overgraded recently graded cards as well.