<< <i>Tom---Wasn't the 1977/6 cent later determined to be a counterfeit? >>
The head of the Mint's lab originally declared it to be genuine. Later his assistant declared it to be an alteration. I was going to fly it out to ANACS for a third opinion, but then they refused to return it. So, yes it was determined to be an alteration, as one of their opinions, but I was not 100% convinced that it was so. Tom D.
Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
<< <i>Tom---Wasn't the 1977/6 cent later determined to be a counterfeit? >>
The head of the Mint's lab originally declared it to be genuine. Later his assistant declared it to be an alteration. I was going to fly it out to ANACS for a third opinion, but then they refused to return it. So, yes it was determined to be an alteration, as one of their opinions, but I was not 100% convinced that it was so. Tom D. >>
If it were real, shouldn't dozens of others have turned up by now? The error was in the die and the die would have produced more than one coin.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Being a Saint collector doesn't conflict with my opinion. If the government says they were illegal, who am I to disagree? It's like owning a stolen Rembrandt that you can't display.
Cap'n. I would guess that they did swith another double eagle for the weight...but that's still stealing. Just a detail.
Even if they monetized them...I don't have the dinero to buy one.
I love the book and plan to read it again soon. I do have a problem with this thread, however. over 50 posts and no one is even close to getting flamed!!!
<< <i>Tom---Wasn't the 1977/6 cent later determined to be a counterfeit? >>
The head of the Mint's lab originally declared it to be genuine. Later his assistant declared it to be an alteration. I was going to fly it out to ANACS for a third opinion, but then they refused to return it. So, yes it was determined to be an alteration, as one of their opinions, but I was not 100% convinced that it was so. Tom D. >>
If it were real, shouldn't dozens of others have turned up by now? The error was in the die and the die would have produced more than one coin. >>
Logically, yes, but one of the guys in the black helicopters told me in the parking garage of the Watergate Hotel at Midnight that after the Mint's technical expert declared the piece to be genuine, the Chief Coiner at the Philadelphia Mint told him "You can't say that! We caught and destroyed all of the rest of them! That'll make this one valuable! Just declare this one fake and destroy it too!!!!"
LOL
TD
Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
Earlier in this thread, someone asked if there were other good (non-numismatic) books about coins. Yes, "Million Dollar Nickels" is a fascinating look at the 1913 Liberty Head nickels. It goes into depth about the Walton specimen that was unsuspectingly kept in a closet for 41 years because Walton's heirs were erroneously told in 1962 that his coin was a fake.
I just finished reading this book, literally seconds ago.
It is outstanding. A great read! I see that our own Saintguru was mentioned in the book!!
Always took candy from strangers Didn't wanna get me no trade Never want to be like papa Working for the boss every night and day --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
<< <i>I just finished reading this book, literally seconds ago. >>
Going by your post time, I must have finished the book right about the same time you did! I took it with me on vacation...(no internet, I thought I was going to have seizures!!). I agree with you...great book, highly recommended. I think the only thing missing was a murder scene, otherwise, it had it all!
<< <i>Earlier in this thread, someone asked if there were other good (non-numismatic) books about coins. Yes, "Million Dollar Nickels" is a fascinating look at the 1913 Liberty Head nickels. It goes into depth about the Walton specimen that was unsuspectingly kept in a closet for 41 years because Walton's heirs were erroneously told in 1962 that his coin was a fake. >>
Personally, I think all the 1913 Liberty nickels are "fakes" in that their mintage was a clandestine "project" which was never authorized to be struck, let alone released.
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<< <i>Tom---Wasn't the 1977/6 cent later determined to be a counterfeit? >>
The head of the Mint's lab originally declared it to be genuine. Later his assistant declared it to be an alteration. I was going to fly it out to ANACS for a third opinion, but then they refused to return it. So, yes it was determined to be an alteration, as one of their opinions, but I was not 100% convinced that it was so.
Tom D.
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<< <i>Tom---Wasn't the 1977/6 cent later determined to be a counterfeit? >>
The head of the Mint's lab originally declared it to be genuine. Later his assistant declared it to be an alteration. I was going to fly it out to ANACS for a third opinion, but then they refused to return it. So, yes it was determined to be an alteration, as one of their opinions, but I was not 100% convinced that it was so.
Tom D. >>
If it were real, shouldn't dozens of others have turned up by now? The error was in the die and the die would have produced more than one coin.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Cap'n. I would guess that they did swith another double eagle for the weight...but that's still stealing. Just a detail.
Even if they monetized them...I don't have the dinero to buy one.
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<< <i>Tom---Wasn't the 1977/6 cent later determined to be a counterfeit? >>
The head of the Mint's lab originally declared it to be genuine. Later his assistant declared it to be an alteration. I was going to fly it out to ANACS for a third opinion, but then they refused to return it. So, yes it was determined to be an alteration, as one of their opinions, but I was not 100% convinced that it was so.
Tom D. >>
If it were real, shouldn't dozens of others have turned up by now? The error was in the die and the die would have produced more than one coin. >>
Logically, yes, but one of the guys in the black helicopters told me in the parking garage of the Watergate Hotel at Midnight that after the Mint's technical expert declared the piece to be genuine, the Chief Coiner at the Philadelphia Mint told him "You can't say that! We caught and destroyed all of the rest of them! That'll make this one valuable! Just declare this one fake and destroy it too!!!!"
LOL
TD
So if they where switched, which I agree is the most likely answer, from the governments point of view what is the big f'n deal.....
Eventually they will see 10+ million dollars and be interested in selling those.....
Really? Hmmmm.
Here's a link to info:
Million Dollar Nickels
-donn-
It is outstanding. A great read! I see that our own Saintguru was mentioned in the book!!
Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
<< <i>I just finished reading this book, literally seconds ago. >>
Going by your post time, I must have finished the book right about the same time you did! I took it with me on vacation...(no internet, I thought I was going to have seizures!!). I agree with you...great book, highly recommended. I think the only thing missing was a murder scene, otherwise, it had it all!
Cathy
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
More likely he exchanged new coins for old and pocketed a small gratuity for his effort. If that is the case, are the coins really "stolen"?
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
<< <i>Earlier in this thread, someone asked if there were other good (non-numismatic) books about coins. Yes, "Million Dollar Nickels" is a fascinating look at the 1913 Liberty Head nickels. It goes into depth about the Walton specimen that was unsuspectingly kept in a closet for 41 years because Walton's heirs were erroneously told in 1962 that his coin was a fake. >>
Personally, I think all the 1913 Liberty nickels are "fakes" in that their mintage was a clandestine "project" which was never authorized to be struck, let alone released.
Highly recommended for coin collectors, full of coin history, as has been said,
and therefore to the top it goes.