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theczar
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A few weeks ago I posted a note concerning some buyer who took it upon himself to short me on shipping, even when the auction had a clear and reasonable shipping cost clearly stated.
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Short Shipper
After two emails which he completely blew me off I put the card in an addressed envelope and waited for him to get back to me. Since he paid by check I figured he would come out of his hole eventually and start whining.
Here is his last response (expletives deleted, bad spelling and punctuation maintained)
you got some nerve, i already sent out $3 yesterday to you,i did send you an email twice, (A LIE) you didnt have to bother to block me, i would not buy from a jerk like you again, its people like you that are bad news for the good people in this hobbie, you better hope that when the card comes it better say it costs $5 for shipping or i am going to report you to ebay, i know what jerks like you do when you dont get what you wanted for the card so you try to make up for it by over charging for shipping , i am sick and tried of you cheap jerks who think they can take advantage of anybody, if the mailing cost say $5 or even close you wont hear from me again but if it says $2 ebay will hear about it to, lets see what happens, this is the only to shut bullsh*t artist like you up.
Anyway in my opinion chalk one up for people not wanting to get pushed around by losers who don't like the shipping costs.
For more details click here.
Short Shipper
After two emails which he completely blew me off I put the card in an addressed envelope and waited for him to get back to me. Since he paid by check I figured he would come out of his hole eventually and start whining.
Here is his last response (expletives deleted, bad spelling and punctuation maintained)
you got some nerve, i already sent out $3 yesterday to you,i did send you an email twice, (A LIE) you didnt have to bother to block me, i would not buy from a jerk like you again, its people like you that are bad news for the good people in this hobbie, you better hope that when the card comes it better say it costs $5 for shipping or i am going to report you to ebay, i know what jerks like you do when you dont get what you wanted for the card so you try to make up for it by over charging for shipping , i am sick and tried of you cheap jerks who think they can take advantage of anybody, if the mailing cost say $5 or even close you wont hear from me again but if it says $2 ebay will hear about it to, lets see what happens, this is the only to shut bullsh*t artist like you up.
Anyway in my opinion chalk one up for people not wanting to get pushed around by losers who don't like the shipping costs.
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On a side note, let's see how happy he'll be when he tries to bid on a card that one of the many other people here have blocked him from. I know I'm not the only person who added him to my blocked list...
Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12
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and tell him he spelled "hobby" wrong..
i appreciate their concern, but...
i did have a major issue with a buyer where i mailed some vending boxes and he was unhappy that i didn't double box them, yet i did use enough bubble wrap to fill up a volkswagon beetle..
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
SIgh
And of course, Ebay could do NOTHING.
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I would have told the first guy to pack sand on the shipping and the card would not have been shipped. Czar, that guy asking for a refund then neg'ing me for $2.50 on a <$2 auction win would probably send me out of the hobbie for ever.
As always, if you don't like the terms of the auction, don't bid. I'm (we're) not here to screw anyone over, but reasonable shipping can't be haggled over. Period.
<< <i>I would have simply never bid on your auction. He should have done the same , if so a problem would not exist. 5.00 is way over priced to ship a single card. >>
If you ship priority mail with delivery confirmation, it is pretty close to $5.
"All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
<< <i>i guess he never heard of handling, shipping supplies, gas, shipper, etc. what a jerk! >>
He's also never heard of correct placement of apostrophes.
<< <i> to cover your expenses which is unethical >>
umm hello? Who decided that?
"All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
<< <i>I get tired of hearing that shipping costs includes handling, supplies, listing fees, gas, yadda yadda yadda. The shipping fee is the amount that the buyer is paying to ship their card. All that other malarky is not the buyers responsibility, it's the sellers. When I pay 3.50 for shipping I don't expect to get my card shipped in a bubble wrapped envelope and mailed for .67 cents. Thats just a rip off. If your a seller and your doing that your just gouging your customers and pocketing that other couple of dollars to cover your expenses which is unethical and just plain tight assed in my opinion. If you feel the need to cover your expenses in such a way then why not just put a minimum bid on your card where you'll be content with your profit margin and be done with it. If I want to buy it I will and if not I'll move on. If I pay 3.50 for shipping and you mail it for .67 cents and it gets damaged in transit then it's your fault it didn't get where it was going in one piece and I'd expect a refund. So use the money that I pay for shipping on the shipping and there won't be any problems. >>
Shipping costs DO include handling fees. Read eBay's policy.
John
HOF SIGNED FOOTBALL RCS
As has been mentioned, if you think $5 (or $3.50 or whatever) is too high, simply don't bid. Don't bid then expect to have your shipping wants satiated, too.
<< <i>Rambler - not sure where you live but gas in Seattle is $3.15 a gallon. it's shipping and handling not postage only. do you get cards grading by PSA? how do you like PSA's return shipping charges? >>
Isn't PSA's return shipping charges for registered mail and insurance ? I've never received a return mailing from PSA in a lame bubble envelope with no protection, have you ? So in that sense I feel you get what you paid for with the PSA's return shipping charges. I assume you quote gas prices because your driving to the post office ? Well newsflash, in Ohio where I live the mailman comes right to your door. I imagine you get the same service in Seattle. You can purchase postage online at usps.com, get priority boxes delivered to you, buy bubble wrap, get delivery confirmation, buy insurance, ect, all this and you never have to leave the house. So why as a buyer of your card am I expected to buy you gas? Your not driving it to me your mailing it.
I'm just kinda ticked, I few weeks ago I purchased a card from an individual on ebay. I paid 3.00 shipping. When I received my package it was mailed in a bubble envelope the same size as the PSA case with no protection whatsoever for .67 cents. Well needless to say when I got it the case was shattered and the card was ruined. I returned the card to the seller and he hee hawed about saying I should have purchased insurance which he offered on his auction for 3.00. Well that seemed like another gouge job to me when the card I purchased was only 12.27 and the Postal Service charges 1.35 for insurance up to 50.00. More "handling" charges I guess. If I'm paying all these "handling" charges then as a seller you better "handle" it a little better and get it to me in one piece or I'm not paying for it. Well apparently PayPal agrees with me because they refunded me my purchase price and my shipping fee. So it's all good, there is justice in this world.
I'm not only a buyer on ebay, I'm also a seller and as a seller I feel it's my responsibility to get my product to you safely and you as a buyer be satisfied before our transaction is finished. It just makes good business sense. Am I the only one that feels this way ?
<< <i>For me it seems very simple, if I don't want to pay the shipping, I don't push the bid button
Agreed, everyone has a limit on what they think is excessive on shipping costs. If you do not like what the seller is charging then do not buy the card.
<< <i>...gas in Seattle is $3.15 a gallon. >>
Ah, the good old days.
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sadly for him that shipping option has sailed. bubble wrapped envelope with the least possible postage needed and signature confirmation required so he has to go the post office to pick it up if he isn't home.
i am not a dealer and i just try to get rid of excess stuff as i upgrade. i let the ebay market set the price and sometimes i get a good price, many times i don't but that is the free market. whatever small amount i get is spent right away on other stuff, so while i would like to get as much as possible i never cry when i don't.
sending someone arbitraily sending less than the required shipping listed is no different that me giving him a psa 5, card instead of the psa 6 because i didn't think the price i got was fair. there is no reneging after the auction is closed for the seller or the buyer.
this guy got two polite emails from me and ignored them. he is a tool and he probably gets his jollies stiffing waitresses, cab drivers and caddies.
you can be a drug addict, compulsive gambler, alcoholic or way 450 lbs. all of those things can be cured and controlled. cheap skates are that way for life.
This post (and any other one similar to this on this thread) is all you need to do. Next thread, please.
I charge $ 4.55 for shipping exactly, because that is exactly what it costs me to ship Priority mail with D/c. I always ship in a priority mail box day after auction. I would rather someone do this than charge me 3.50 and send it to me in a bubble mailer with $.67 cents of postage on it. Sometimes I even have to spend some of money out of pocket to send an expensive card insured because I dont want to have to go through the hassle of if I hadnt.
BUT, if you stated in your auction you are charging $5 you are in the right in this case. If your looking to purchase bubbler mailers in bulk try seller parrothead88 on Ebay. They have the best prices multiple sizes and fast shipping.
Hmmm. After reading their feedbacks, don't think I will be buying from them.
29 negative in 30 days!!!
<< <i>If your looking to purchase bubbler mailers in bulk try seller parrothead88 on Ebay. They have the best prices multiple sizes and fast shipping.
Hmmm. After reading their feedbacks, don't think I will be buying from them.
29 negative in 30 days!!! >>
wow, i wonder what's happened? i havent bought from them in the last 3 or 4 months, but i've always bought my stuff from them with no problems at all..
BUT, if you stated in your auction you are charging $5 you are in the right in this case. If your looking to purchase bubbler mailers in bulk try seller parrothead88 on Ebay. They have the best prices multiple sizes and fast shipping.
puckhd27,
Are you really serious about this joker parrothead88. Why hasn't ebay kicked this guy off of ebay.
WHY DOESN"T EBAY PULL THIS STORE???
<< <i>What a turn around, Went from being an A+ seller to an F- chump. Closed up shop! >>
From one of the 29 negs...
I always remember this seller as being reliable also, but I guess they folded up shop.
Although it is common to see high s/h on items where the starting bid is .99 cents. Somtimes it is obvious that the s/h cost is actually intended on being part of the purchase price. It's a game many sellers play when selling their items and is nothing new. It's been going on since I started buying on eBay.
Fact is handling does cost money for the seller. Packaging and transporting the item and the time one may wait in line to mail an item that requires insurance/delivery confirmation.
More reasons to just let this topic die!
Excessive Shipping & Handling
eBay encourages sellers to clearly describe the item and terms of shipping and delivery in their listings to avoid possible confusion.
A shipping and handling fee can cover the seller's reasonable costs for mailing, packaging and handling the item. However, shipping and handling fees may not be listed as a percentage of the final sale price.
When a bid is placed, the bidder is entering into an agreement with the seller to purchase the item, which most often means incurring reasonable shipping charges that may also include handling fees.
In the case of disagreements between buyers and sellers regarding shipping charges, eBay encourages the parties to try to work the matter out.
<< <i>rambler is not intelligent.. >>
Pandrews, I'm worried about you. Do you realize that you've had over 8700 posts on here in about 30 months. Thats an average of almost 10 posts a day, every day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. That sure seems like a whole lot of wasted time. You need to get a life dude. Lay down that mouse. Go outside, get you some exercise, get you a girlfriend. Do something constructive with your time. I imagine you could have built a battleship out of matchsticks during the hundreds and hundreds of hours you've spent talking gibberish on this message board.
Don't worry about paandrew that tool, because he is a twit. He likes to make negative comments and insult people. He is a little boy who doesn't know how to play nice in the sand box. He must be fighting with his man again.
<< <i> Pandrews, I'm worried about you. Do you realize that you've had over 8700 posts on here in about 30 months. Thats an average of almost 10 posts a day, every day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. That sure seems like a whole lot of wasted time. You need to get a life dude. Lay down that mouse. Go outside, get you some exercise, get you a girlfriend. Do something constructive with your time. I imagine you could have built a battleship out of matchsticks during the hundreds and hundreds of hours you've spent talking gibberish on this message board. >>
maybe i have a comfortable laid back life that affords me the opportunity to "waste" as much time as i like everyday, doing whatever i like, for as long as i want..
now, you should go get back to the hard work at your job every day, and make some money so you can spend more time doing things you enjoy, without penny-pinching and worrying about a seller making $1.50 on a transaction..
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<< <i> Pandrews, I'm worried about you. Do you realize that you've had over 8700 posts on here in about 30 months. Thats an average of almost 10 posts a day, every day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. That sure seems like a whole lot of wasted time. You need to get a life dude. Lay down that mouse. Go outside, get you some exercise, get you a girlfriend. Do something constructive with your time. I imagine you could have built a battleship out of matchsticks during the hundreds and hundreds of hours you've spent talking gibberish on this message board. >>
maybe i have a comfortable laid back life that affords me the opportunity to "waste" as much time as i like everyday, doing whatever i like, for as long as i want..
now, you should go get back to the hard work at your job every day, and make some money so you can spend more time doing things you enjoy, without penny-pinching and worrying about a seller making $1.50 on a transaction.. >>
lol I'm thinking maybe your parents afford you your laidback lifestyle you've become accustomed to and they probably wish you would move your sorry butt out of their basement.
<< <i>lol I'm thinking maybe your parents afford you your laidback lifestyle you've become accustomed to and they probably wish you would move your sorry butt out of their basement. >>
get back to work, boy.. before i have your boss block your internet access..
<< <i> Pandrews, I'm worried about you. Do you realize that you've had over 8700 posts on here in about 30 months. Thats an average of almost 10 posts a day, every day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. That sure seems like a whole lot of wasted time. >>
+1
<< <i>Yeah Pandrews...that's a lot of posts.
+1
Are you being naughty.... again.
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