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U.S. Dimes Complete Set, Circulation Strikes (1796-present) now rated.
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Very interesting to see. As fas as I can tell Dimeman may have received his wish. NO FULL BANDS BONUS that I can see. I just do not understand PCGS's thinking on this one. Maybe BJ can answer this.
Why have FB bonuses on the Merc and Roosie sets and then not add them here? To me this just doesn't make any sense!
I'm up for discussion!
Later, Paul.
Why have FB bonuses on the Merc and Roosie sets and then not add them here? To me this just doesn't make any sense!
I'm up for discussion!
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.
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As far as the NO BANDS.
I am the one who requested the set and which coins I wanted in it and so on. And I ask that it not have bonuses for FB, and BJ said it would not have the bonus. I don't like the bonus. I don't think that a 65FB should be equal to a 67. It's grade that counts. I don't care if a 65FB cost more that the 67. It's not a money contest, it's a grade contest. Heck, otherwise why not just use the cost of the coin to determine the weight. I have all my sets in the no band, except the 1965-present roosies, which has no such set. I guess they figure no one would collect the ultra moderns in anything but FB. I just won't pay big bucks for the bands. If they are free or not too much more and I can't find a no band, fine.
JMHO Jon
You are certainly entitled to your own opinion. I have/had requested this set YEARS ago along with several inquires to a 1946-Date Roosevelt set which has gone TOTALLY ignored. There have been several threads right here on this message board about this complete dime set.
What PCGS or BJ should have done IMHO is send out an e-mail to every dime registry set holder and ask them if they would like to see the FB bonuses added to this set, instead of asking 1 person, which obviously they have done.
#1) If PCGS adds the FB bonus to a second 1796-Date set, I will switch my dimes to that set and believe me, alot of guys will follow.
#2) Jon, you made a comment that this is and I quote: "It's not a money contest, it's a grade contest" well I can assure you that it is neither...it is a set registry and I am in no contest with anyone but myself.
No hard feelings on my behalf Jon!
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.
Boy, I sure didn't mean to offend anyone here. I value your friendship and comrodery(sp) more than this question of FB or not.
I would rather have one set and it be FB, if that is what everyone else wants, than to have two sets. Two sets would dilute the fun to me.
I didn't mean it the way you took it, Paul, when I said it was a grade contest. Sure I like high grades, but I usually buy the best grade I can right before the big jump. If a 66 is $50 and a 67 is $100 and a 68 is $1000, I will buy the 67 and so on.
As far as BJ asking me about the bands, she didn't. I requested it that way thinking I was the only one asking. I did not know the you, Paul, had already requested it.
There will be no hard feelings on my part if the rest of you dime guys want BJ to change the set to FB. I would much rather have that than have two sets. I want to be in the same set as the rest of you. I'm just going for completion in the best grades I can afford. I know I won't finish on top and that does not matter. I don't have the funds to do that. I just like the competion of filling the holes.
Please don't leave guys. This is supposed to be fun.
Fred - I don't know how they figure the weights. I agree that a 1796 is harder than the 16-D, but that is the same for all of us.
Having fun.................Jon
I think that some of the weights are off, and I couldn't help in the early dimes as I just don't know them.
Jon, I am having fun and you have made these boards readable the last few months. I will be there in the end, just as grumpy ol' Fred will be there too.
Later Paul.
Later, Paul.
Paul, I'm not gruppy
<< <i>Paul, I'm not grumpy
Mistercoinman, Dan50 told me you have a mean streak!
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.
I never met Dan, but I'm sure he's a nice guy!!
<< <i>I never met Dan, but I'm sure he's a nice guy!! >>
All of us need to head over to Nick house where he will supply all of the eats
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.
I agree, a FB coin should have more value than a non FB in the same grade. A 65FB should be worth more than a 65, but not as much as a 66.
Jon
pop report below for a 1957 Roosie and tell me that a 67 is more valuable then a 66FB or even a 65FB.
Supply and demand steps in here, and that favors the FB coin even in lower grades. I would prefer a
65FB over a 67...But that's just me....
............................................................................65...66...67..............total
1957.. 10C...... MS 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 10 92 894 135 0 0 0.... 1134
1957.. 10C. MSFB 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.. 17... 16... 2.. 0 0 0........ 35
The registry shouldn't be about value. To me it should be about completion and grade. I would much rather have a 67 than a 65FB. To me a 65FB should not count as much as a 67 even though it could have cost more. That is the choice the buyer made. I know bands are expensive. I have collected Mercs for over 30 years. The bands on a 19-D cost thousands. In 66 it is 3K compared to 120K. It's not right to me that the guy can buy 2 extra points of grade for 117K. That is just buying the game to me. They are both 66's and should count the same. If I had one to make 67 I would want it to count more than the 66FB.
That's just me.
Not trying to start a fight. Just having fun here.
Jon
Now when you start using magnification on the dime, esp the Roosie dime, you will see how much better it looks with the bands.
I'm here to tell you there are some nice dimes in 67/68, but take the early clads of the 1970's and they had some ugly torches without the full bands. And the magnification just makes them worse, even with the naked eye there are some real dogs in the lower bands.
Now take the same year with FB's and tell me there is no justification for the bonus.
Yes I know there are always exceptions with close to FB coins. But you have to have a guideline as to how the bands are on a coin, hence the FB.
We won't go into the uniband thingie, it's to depressing how they screwed up the dies for these years.
Nick, Dan, Fred, and the rest of us FB collectors, it is not working. This thread is sounding just like the last one. Jon will collect what he wants and PCGS will rate and weigh how they want. I really don't care at this point. I too will collect the FB's in Mercs and Roosies to the best of my collecting abilities. What ever happens, happens.
Jon, don't get so defensive. You are a great collector of dimes and that is just great. Collect the way you want. I certainly am not mad at you and no one else is, although I can't speak for everyone. This has turned out to be a wonderful debate, but I've had enough. PCGS is done with this set and that is the way I accept it.
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.