OT/ i thought video games were for kids?

kuhlmann

ps3 release date 11/17 06 499$ 20 gigs 599$ 60 gigs! wow!


crazy

iamthegreatcornholio

600 bucks and people will still be fighting over them at walmart

Although, a high-end graphics card for a PC costs more than that...

It's my understanding that the Xbox 360 uses HD-DVDs whereas the PS3 uses Blu-Ray Discs; I'm not sure which format will be the industry standard for movies, media, etc.

Axtell

Xbox 360 doesn't use HD DVD, yet. They've announced a $100 add on that will give it HD DVD support.

$600 for a PS3 is beyond stupid...throw in the countless delays they are encountering, and it's obvious Sony is going to fall behind (and probably give up) in the console wars. Early reports PS3 and 360 graphic capabilities to be about the same, with the 360 having several hundred dollars price advantage.


The wildcard in all of this is the Nintendo Wii. It will price at $200 and has a very, very solid lineup of games planned. It could be the winner when things are all said and done.

As far as which next gen DVD format will be king, it's likely that Sony (again) will be on the losing end of new formats (remember betamax?). HD DVD is receiving tons more studio support, and the fact there are competing formats is only going to keep consumers away, keeping the next gen tech even further down the road.

ToppsCo1lector

^^It'll be selling for over a 1K online. Someone I know* is getting 5 of them for the sole reselling purpose.

Boopotts

I shouldn't talk, since I'm into baseball cards, but this whole video game craze has just got to go. I can't believe grown men and women screw around with this stuff. If you want to play games online then go to Yahoo and play backgammon or something.

Axtell

<< <i>I shouldn't talk, since I'm into baseball cards, but this whole video game craze has just got to go. I can't believe grown men and women screw around with this stuff. If you want to play games online then go to Yahoo and play backgammon or something. >>



What's wrong with adults playing games?

Boopotts

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<< <i>I shouldn't talk, since I'm into baseball cards, but this whole video game craze has just got to go. I can't believe grown men and women screw around with this stuff. If you want to play games online then go to Yahoo and play backgammon or something. >>



What's wrong with adults playing games? >>



Oh, I don't know-- nothing I guess. It's just not my thing, and I felt like venting.

nightcrawler

I never did grow out of playing PAC-MAN, I keep an old machine in my little tractor restoration shop.

Axtell

I've always wanted a couple old video games like that for the garage.

Brian48

I'm a PC Gamer myself.

onlyanumber

And people wonder why the US has become a country full of fatties. Buy your kid a ball and kick him out the door for a few hours.

perkdog

At age 35 I still enjoy my XBOX, I will wait on the 360 and forget about EVER spending 600 bucks on a video console.

Axtell

<< <i>And people wonder why the US has become a country full of fatties. Buy your kid a ball and kick him out the door for a few hours. >>



The country doesn't have a weight problem solely because of video games. It has a weight problem because of fast food crap, because of the economic demands forcing both parents to work long hours, and partly because of tv.

But video games are a great thing, but, like all things, need to be taken in moderation.

hardcorehockeyfan

This country's obesity rate has gone up in high percentages since the mid 80s. The video game market started getting heavy reception around that time also, so video games DO have a major influence in obesity. When I was a kid, in the mid 80s, I had an Atari, sure, I played it, but I would much rather go play hockey or football with my friends, over a video game anytime. I also had a paper route when I was a kid back then, so I made a little cash for a child, and I ate fast food often, more so than healthy, but I never had a weight problem, or a blood pressure problem. Kids are fat nowadays, because their parents want them to be "happy" kids, and will not say NO to a kid wanting a game console. I know some kids, who are playing their video games from the time school is out til the time it is to go to bed, and some still sneak up at night to play them, some adults are the same way also. If a child's obesity has to do with fast food all the time, then shame on the parents. It only takes 20 mins to put some chicken breasts on the grill with a side of rice, but one can also say, all these fast foods were also in place in the 60s and 70s, so blaming obesity on fast food is not the case. The main reason is because kids are lazy, happy to be lazy, and would much rather sit on their rears playing games and watching television, instead of going up to the local playground for some ball!!!!!!!!!!!!

Axtell

Your energy is to be respected, but to put the blame solely on video games is misguided.

2 income parents were literally unheard of in the 60s, and the percentage of both parents having to work is at all time highs. Parents are working longer and longer hours, meaning kids get more and more neglect, and less attention. Kids are playing more video games, but to say video games are the sole cause is wrong, imo.

Stingray

<< <i>I've always wanted a couple old video games like that for the garage. >>



I always wanted to have a standup Tempest video arcade game. Was my favorite as a teen.


As for myself, have a slim PS2 in the bedroom, play mainly sports games and driving games. Not into games that require you to find things and follow maps. Need to be able to play for 30 minutes and feel like I at least completed a whole game.

hardcorehockeyfan

I am not saying video games are the sole cause of obesity in kids, but there has to be something to it. As i said earlier, I had an income in my early years, and I did eat my share of fast food, but in between eating that stuff, after school til 8-9 p.m., I was out playing sports, on the weekends, I was out doing that also, with breaks only between meals and #2's!!!

I am single, I have my own house, no kids, and at some points during the year, I am working 12-16 hours per day, and even when I am at my busiest then, I still find time to cook my own meals. As I said, it only takes a few minutes to grill or broil up some chicken or steak, so when I hear there is no time to cook, I do not buy that. Sure, both parents have to work in what, 75% of the homes, my figure may be wrong, may be more, but it is not that hard to keep up with a proper and healthy diet. Just cooking food properly would take the weight off many kids, try broiling or grilling, instead of frying. Kids think a meal is a twinkie and donuts it seems, but I was raised not to rely on that junk food, and my snacks were tomatoes. I know many do not like tomatoes, but there are also green peppers, cucumbers, and salad greens, if you get my point, they even make ready to eat salads in bags, which does not mean chopping is necessary, if you can spend $3 on a bag of cookies, you can spend $3 on a bag of salad.

I live in the burbs north of Detroit, one of the fattest cities in the country, and I see tons of kids and adults who overextended their belt lines years ago. I know of a 5 year old kid down the street that is booking 150 pounds, and that is a kind estimate, and his parents claim, he is happy, so I am happy. When that kid hits middle school, he is not going to be too happy with the jokes. A high school in Detroit, already started that "healthy diet" thing, where they will not sell sodas or junk food in vending machines. Since when is it upon schools of observe a child's dietary intake? A soda a day is not going to hurt many, unless diabetes is involved, 5 a day, now that will. I see so many adults on my shopping trips, buying 8-packs of sodas all the time, 3 or 4 at a time, if not more, whatever happened to the juices or milk? It is not that hard to parlay a healthy diet in kids, it only takes a little bit of effort, and something called, "show by example," but we as Americans tend to need our "luxury" and many will do the minimum, and if it all fails, parents blame things on other people, companies, or the schools. Video games do not help in obesity, nor do many parents, but a little thinking of what is on the meal plan, and a little encouragment in kids to get active would be all it takes.

Another thing to note, I do not see kids on bikes much anymore, nor do I see them at the playgrounds. When I was a kid, I would have taken a bike anyday over a game console, and there were tons of kids on bikes then, and when I would hit the playgrounds to play whatever, they were always full, playgrounds seem to be a useless plan for a kid's activities!!!!!!!!

cardfan07

National beverage distributors have recently agreed to remove regular sodas out of schools across the country. I believe they can still supply diet versions and water an fruit juices, but no Mt Dew or Coke.
I think video games, just like the internet and an onslaught of fast (and not so healthy food choices) and probably more importantly, family dynamics that lessen the time children spend with parents and parents downloading their kids to other activities have all played a role in a bigger US. There is no one thing to blame-we've become more sedentary and no longer have to work the land. All things start to add up over time.

perkdog

I believe video games and computers are partly to blame for the overweight kids in America. Kids are more occupied indoors than being bored, I cannot remember the last time I saw kids having a "back yard" tackle football game, we used to play at least three times a week as kids and always all afternoon on saturdays.

BobaFett72

we've had Tv and fast food, unhealthy food...for a lot longer than vid games...just more choice, more time to waste in front of the screen...
home computers, online gaming etc.... = lots of tubby kids. Moderation isnt a word that most kids understand these days.

nightcrawler

I'm amazed at how some video gamers take to the contruction world of equipment better than most others. For example, almost all heavy equipment is now controlled just like a video game. Those old time control levers have largely been replaced by joysticks and pressure sensative buttons. There was a time when a crane operator had to have a good set of arms and legs to get the job done, they would sweat their asses off in some of them old machines, now it's just like sitting on your couch playing vids. If we look around, we can see video games in nearly every workplace. That comfort level must be playing into the new chunky style

iamthegreatcornholio

<< <i>Xbox 360 doesn't use HD DVD, yet. They've announced a $100 add on that will give it HD DVD support. >>



Oh ok, I didn't realize the HD thing wasn't already on the 360. If you add on that $100, the "loaded" 360 would cost the same as a the comparable hard-drive PS3.

Has anyone ever played an "active" video game? I used to play this virtual boxing game at a local arcade that required punching with weighted gloves and moving on a mat that senses your movement - you'd really work a sweat playing that; and it would actually track burned calories, I think around 800 for beating the game. I actually thought about buying it, but I found out it cost 20K

One sigma I think video games have moved away from is antisocial. Other than off-line RPGs, most video games offer multiplayer support, and many games, certainly sports games, are a lot more fun playing against real people.