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1985 1986 Star Michael Jordan's

2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I sent these in 6 years ago and at the time was pretty happy with the grades. I just found them again and thought I'd break them out and let everyone take a look at them. While I'm at it, does anyone know what they are selling for now? I haven't seen them in a long time. I think they are pretty cool looking cards. Thanks in advance
If anyone could post these pictures I will thank them too. Joe

W.C.Fields
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.

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  • FavreFan1971FavreFan1971 Posts: 3,103 ✭✭✭
    I predict all three will come back with Evid of Trim.

    CSA?????
  • Brian48Brian48 Posts: 2,624 ✭✭✭
    No, none of them will come back trimmed. Unless PSA has changed their policy, they will refuse to grade Star Basketball cards. Unless I'm mistaken, GAI is the only remaining grader that still grades these cards and that's only because they have a former employee of Star Co. on the dole that can spot the fakes with any measurable sense of accuracy.
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    Values of anything tend to plummet when there appears to be only one 'expert' in the world that can differentiate between real and fake.
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The cards are real and un altered. CSA was a reputable grader and at the time the only company that graded Star cards. I am 100% positive they are real. Now, back to my original question, any idea of value in 2006? Thanks Joe
    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • Brian48Brian48 Posts: 2,624 ✭✭✭
    That's the problem. It's very difficult to gauge any value because the demand for these cards have plummetted since the problem of the fakes became so prevalent. I'm sure they're legit as you say, but unless you get them graded by GAI (and even then), my guess is that most people will shy away from these cards unless they can get them real cheap.
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    Joe:

    $100- for the 1985 example? See the following ebay auction:

    here

    You might need to log in to Ebay to see it, as it is a completed auction.

    But my premise, I think, still remains valid. Given the numerous authenticity questions on Star issues anymore, even if you are 100% sure it is real, a buyer will not be. Which is why these cards sell for much less than they used to [that, combined with the general decline in Jordan card value]

    Marc
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks Brian, I hadn't planned on selling them. I guess when you say cheap, you mean under $100 a piece. Funny how even having them graded there still is doubt about them. And even if I crossed the to GAI there still would be doubt. I think the 8's would cross to 8.5's but what would be the point? I guess I'll put them back in the Basketball box and let the heirs to my estate deal with them. Thanks joe
    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Marc,
    Those cards sold ungraded for a pretty good price!! I guess these card still have some value to someone. Thanks for brightening my day. Joe
    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,745 ✭✭✭
    i had some 85 star gatorade gai's graded. they were all 8.5's. i sold jordan for around $150, the dominique and drexler for around $45 each. i've got the rest ungraded.

    i like the way the gai holder has the description on top of the holder so when they are in a box you can tell what they are..make sense?


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    PSA graded my 86' STAR Carew cards last monthimage
  • sagardsagard Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭
    I believe the problem was that they were reprinted by Star at a later date. They are not fakes and that is why PSA and most reputable companies don't touch them.
  • MajorDanbyMajorDanby Posts: 1,343
    unfortunate, because star cards were big money a decade or so ago, but as many have stated here are lower in value. an easy reprinted card and the lack of grading (sans GAI, which is still suspect in many eyes) lowers the value. I'll take them off your hands if you're selling.
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  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,745 ✭✭✭
    carew29....they DID grade your STAR cards????


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭


    << <i>carew29....they DID grade your STAR cards???? >>



    PSA grades baseball Star cards. There does not appear to be any known reprinting of those. Heck - a vast majority of them are worth less now than when they were issued.
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • TheCARDKidTheCARDKid Posts: 1,496 ✭
    At the height of Star mania 10-14 years ago, those cards would have been worth $1,500-2,000+.

    If they're authentic, my guess is now, they're worth maybe 10% of that price. The Best of the Best and Best of the New aren't worth hardly anything.

    I was a big fan of these cards in the 90's. I thought they were amazing, great design/colors, great player selection, rarity. It's tragic what happened.
  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    Yes they graded all 24 of them. My grades posted in February. Mostly 7's a few 8's and my 9's where straight 9's, no O/C.
  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    Found my grades

    27 31484236 1986 STAR CAREW 1 CHECKLIST PERFORATED 8OC
    28 31484237 1986 STAR CAREW 2 REGULAR SEASON STATS-PERFORATED 9
    29 31484238 1986 STAR CAREW 3 POST SEASON STATS PERFORATED Not Holdered, Did not meet Minimum Size Requirements
    30 31484239 1986 STAR CAREW 4 1967 AMERICAN LEAGUE R.O.Y.-PERFORATED Not Holdered, Evidence of Trimming
    31 31484240 1986 STAR CAREW 5 TWINS CLUB RECORDS PERFORATED 8
    32 31484241 1986 STAR CAREW 6 MINOR LEAGUE STATS PERFORATED 8
    32 31484242 1986 STAR CAREW 6 MINOR LEAGUE STATS PERFORATED 8
    33 31484243 1986 STAR CAREW 7 4 TIMES 200+ HITS PERFORATED 9
    34 31484244 1986 STAR CAREW 8 7 TIMES AL BATTING CHAMP-PERFORATED 9
    34 31484245 1986 STAR CAREW 8 7 TIMES AL BATTING CHAMP-PERFORATED 9
    35 31484246 1986 STAR CAREW 9 1977 MVP-I PERFORATED 8
    36 31484247 1986 STAR CAREW 10 1977 MVP-II PERFORATED 8
    37 31484248 1986 STAR CAREW 11 AN ALL-STAR 18 TIMES-PERFORATED 8
    38 31484249 1986 STAR CAREW 12 ALL TIME MAJOR LG. HIT LIST-PERFORATED 7
    39 31484250 1986 STAR CAREW 13 ANGEL'S CLUB RECORDS-I-PERFORATED 7
    40 31484251 1986 STAR CAREW 14 ANGEL'S CLUB RECORDS-II-PERFORATED 7
    41 31484252 1986 STAR CAREW 15 ANGEL'S CLUB RECORDS-III-PERFORATED 7
    42 31484253 1986 STAR CAREW 16 MAJOR LEAGUE RECORDS-PERFORATED 7
    43 31484254 1986 STAR CAREW 17 THE LEAGUE LEADER PERFORATED 7
    44 31484255 1986 STAR CAREW 18 PLAYERS WITH 2200+ SINGLES-PERFORATED 7
    45 31484256 1986 STAR CAREW 19 15 YEARS .300 AVERAGE-PERFORATED 8
    46 31484257 1986 STAR CAREW 20 CAREW DATA PERFORATED Not Holdered, Evidence of Trimming
    47 31484258 1986 STAR CAREW 21 CAREW'S BEST PERFORATED 8
    48 31484259 1986 STAR CAREW 22 CAREER HIGHLIGHTS PERFORATED 8
    49 31484260 1986 STAR CAREW 23 PERSONAL DATA PERFORATED 7
    50 31484261 1986 STAR CAREW 24 THE FUTURE PERFORATED 6



  • AllenAllen Posts: 7,165 ✭✭✭
    If you know what you are doing it is not hard to tell the original Star from the ones printed later. There are many minor differences and once educated, it is like spotting fake Fleer Jordans. PSA would grade these cards before but quit. I would say send them to GAI and you can get decent cash out of them, or if you plan to keep them they will atleast be in a much nicer holder. A GAI 5 85 Jordan 101 brought $711 the other day so make no mistake about it these cards are still in demand and I would take them in my collection any day.
  • AkbarCloneAkbarClone Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭
    I'd take them into my collection as well. I need some for my player collections, and since I have no plans to resell them--even if I got a non-legit one--I wouldn't know it.
    I collect Vintage Cards, Commemorative Sets, and way too many vintage and modern player collections in Baseball (180 players), Football (175 players), and Basketball (87 players). Also have a Dallas Cowboy team collection.
  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Guys, Thanks for all the great responses to my questions. This place is a weath of knowledge. I don't know how anyone could collect cards without being tuned in to this board. BTW, I've had quite a few offers for the cards and some were tempting. So I state again, there is still an interest for Jordan cards. not the $2000 that I might have realized 10 years ago, but nearing the $500 mark for all 3. They also thought they could crack them and get a half grade bump on all 3 from GAI and maybe a 10 on the 9. Thanks again. Joe
    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
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