What would you grade this Capped Bust Half?
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1826 C.B. Half Obv.
Obv. tilted to show natural toning/colors:
1826 Rev.
Rev. tilted to show toning/colors:
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- Jim
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<< <i>Ef45-Au50
That's what I think also. It certainly doesn't looked cleaned in my hand. Unfortunately I'm not a good enough photographer to come close to duplicating it's beautiful irridescent, aqua, blue with pink highlights toning or how much eye appeal it carries!
Thanks for the 1st two responses. Any other opinions; especially from those that specialize in Bust halves?
- Jim
Obverse: S1B, S7LE, S8LH, S13LH
Reverse: Upper angle of N partly filled; tiny center dot between crossbars 3 & 4 (from the top, on left side); AM nearly touch, but do not; Left base of M higher than base of A.
<< <i>I'm thinking 40-45 based on the wear. Do the fields really show those colors? Do you think those pics are accurately showing the coin? The fields look very lustrous in those pics. >>
No, as I mentioned, unfortunately I don't have the photographic expertise to accurately depict how nice this coin really looks!
The 1st two (obv.) pix capture the sort of "bronze" overall toning the coin exhibits, but not the pretty turqoise aura that I see when I tilt the coin from side to side.
The 3rd pic shows the turquoise toning under E Pluribus Unum quite accurately, but makes the coin look more silver than the golden brown that it actually is, plus also does not show the aqua blue lustre/toning around the "50".
The 4th photo makes it appear more gaudy looking than it actually is, and makes the outer circumference of the rev. look much more flat than it seems in my hand, but realistically shows the correct turqoise colors and the pinkish colors under the eagle's beak/neck across to his wing, as well as the gold-beige color filling the area under his wing over to the arrow feathers!
Both obv. & rev. fields are almost semi-prooflike, and under magnification I can see some hairline skid marks, especially on, and in the field by her face, so it may have been cleaned? It sure is a beautiful coin nevertheless!
- Jim
<< <i>Check on these points for O-114:
Obverse: S1B, S7LE, S8LH, S13LH
Reverse: Upper angle of N partly filled; tiny center dot between crossbars 3 & 4 (from the top, on left side); AM nearly touch, but do not; Left base of M higher than base of A. >>
Thanks for your response, mozin, but I'm no Bust expert so, although I've heard about Overton's book and variety number designations, etc. I know little else about "die-marriages", etc.
Do you think I have a rare variety?
- Jim
The obverse locators refer to the lower left star 1 points between dentils, upper left star 7 points to lower edge of dentil, upper right star 8 points t lower half of dentil, and lower right star 13 points to lower half of dentil.
If these look to be correct, along with the reverse locators you already verified, you must have O-114. This is currently listed as R4+, meaning likely 80-100 of this marriage thought to still exist. Out of the twenty different 1826 marriages, this is the third rarest. I would estimate the rarity factor makes the coin worth about triple what a common marriage would bring.
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<< <i>I would grade it "messed with" and having high VF-low XF detai. I would market grade it and call it a $75 coin. >>
It is really a shame. These coins are so darn nice all by themselves
<< <i>thisnamztaken,
The obverse locators refer to the lower left star 1 points between dentils, upper left star 7 points to lower edge of dentil, upper right star 8 points t lower half of dentil, and lower right star 13 points to lower half of dentil.
If these look to be correct, along with the reverse locators you already verified, you must have O-114. This is currently listed as R4+, meaning likely 80-100 of this marriage thought to still exist. Out of the twenty different 1826 marriages, this is the third rarest. I would estimate the rarity factor makes the coin worth about triple what a common marriage would bring.
Thanks for explaining, mozin! Yes, I can see every indicator you've mentioned on both sides of this coin, so it must be an O-114. The dentils/teeth on each side of the lower left star 1 are quite weak, but as far as I can tell. it does point between them, and I'm positive that all of the other indicators are just as you've stated.
Also, I can see a tiny bit of extra metal going from the 1st dentil above lower left star 2's point, up towards the star that almost, or perhaps does barely touch the side of the star's point near the tip, if that data helps clarify the variety at all? I checked the web and noticed that NGC's, 2004 guide to using their "Variety Plus service", lists it as a "scarce" variety, which is good news. Looks like I'll need to get this one slabbed before long.
Thanks again for sharing your knowledge about this series, and for everyone's input on this thread as well!!
- Jim
<< <i>Looks like a strong XF to me. You're harsh lighting is probably why so many think it is cleaned. >>
I don't really think it is a problem cleaned coin as much as the surfaces have been messed with, such as in artificial surfaces. Those are not normal colors on a bust half. I do believe that this owner is agreeing that these colors may not be a true reflection of the coin, but if it looks like this pics this coin will not slab in any of the legitimate plastic houses and spending the fee to have them slabbed would be money wasted.