Nash to be named MVP
Axtell
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Initial reports have Nash winning the MVP for 2006.
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<< <i>greatest player on the planet >>
Raw skills and points? Sure. Best team player, MVP? Not by a long shot.
-- Yogi Berra
What will Kobe think? Kobe thinks Kobe should win the MVP.
Raw skills and points? Sure. Best team player, MVP? Not by a long shot
First off, Nash is a point guard. His job is too distribute the ball. Of course he's going to incorporate his teammates more than Kobe. Kobe is a s.g and the best scorer of the basketball on this planet.
What makes me laugh the most are these Kobe haters, like some here on this board, who talk about how much Kobe shoots and dosen't make his teammates better but are the first ones to say how great Jordan was at making his teammates better.
What were you guys saying about Jordan the years he avg.
30.4 pts and 4.3 assists
29.6 pts and 4.3 assists
28.7 pts and 3.5 assists
Wow, what do you know. Jordan won the MVP 2 of those years. But boy it seems like Kobe avg. more points per game and MORE ASSISTS per game than Jordan those years and Kobe gets hated on while Jordan gets praised.
Kobe's assist per game for some of the years he's played in the league . Not bad for someone that plays SHOOTING guard huh ?
4.9
5.0
5.5
5.9
5.1
6.0
Some of Jordans highest Shot attempts per season for some years
2279 att
1998 att
2003 att
1893 att
1892 att
Kobe's Shot attempts for the year the past four years
1924
1178
1324
2173
They both make the players around them better and part of the game, not just spectators as Koby does to his teammates.
No offense bri but you can't even spell his name right, am i supposed to believe you've even watched him play ?
I see your point as well regarding the Jordan comparisons. The numbers are pretty convincing when comparing the two. I get to see Kobe play maybe 18 or 20 games a year, far from the full season but a fair share either way. One thing I will say in favor of him is this, how many guys in the league are good enough to actually create 30 shots a game for themselves. That alone is very much overlooked in basketball. I guess I just plain dont like the guy, leading to my thumbs up for Nash or Lebron over him.
-- Yogi Berra
My spelling generally sux so i don't know why im talking lol
One thing I will say in favor of him is this, how many guys in the league are good enough to actually create 30 shots a game for themselves. That alone is very much overlooked in basketball.
He actually avg'd about 26 fga per game but when you look at some of the players on that roster you understand why he takes that many shots .
I cannot remember one thing Nash did this year. He may have done many amazing things, but none of them stuck in my consciousness.
I don't really care who gets it though. I'm more of a casual Basketball fan.
Quote from article
"I never thought I’d say this either, but he’s making the other players around him better. Usually that requires passing, which he's been doing more of, especially as teammates such as Lamar Odom, Kwame Brown and Luke Walton become more comfortable and emerge as offensive options.
Yet Bryant's improved decision-making — like not trying to break down three guys off the dribble, for instance — keeps defenses on edge because they’re not sure if he’s going to be the old Kobe and jack up shots, or the new one who will get the ball to the more sensible option at the right time. "
LeBron James
Elton Brand
Jason Kidd
Nash still stands out, but those three players can (and have) done it all, LeBron especially - while improving the play of the entire team. The Kobe and 4 other guys show is fun for a while, but if you want to watch the game how it should be played, you should not be watching the 2005-06 Lakers.
Another guy that dosen't watch the games
Kobe's been on the all NBA Defense team for i don't know how many years now but he's one dimensional. Ya OK
Perhaps when you used the term one-dimensional you were thinking of the guy in your icon pic, Manny Ramirez.
The fact that the Lakers made the playoffs and have guys like Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mihm in the starting lineup all year is all the more reason to give Kobe some credit.
Plus, you take Nash off of the Suns, and they still are in the playoffs easily. You take Kobe off of the Lakers, and they MIGHT win 10 games. You take Lebron James off of the Cavs, and they MIGHT win 15 games.
On the other hand, you trade Kobe for Nash, and the Suns will win 65 games (especially, with Amare Stoudamire).
Shane
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Al
I really, really have to disagree with you there (as obviously do the people who vote for the MVP award).
I'm not a Kobe fan but one thing I have to see for him, is that the Suns should be CRUSHING the Lakers right now. The Suns barely won game 1 and lost game 2. Kobe knows how to win when he needs to.