Several lessons to learn from this ebay listing

DeusExMachina

1. Don't buy raw gold on ebay
2. Be wary of overseas sellers
3. I think I know what shill bidding is now.

Any other thoughts?


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BigE2

really. not all that bad.
He states it was wiped. That's unusual.
Panama technically isn't overseas.
Has a Cali P.O. Box (?)

If you look into the history, I don't see any real red flags. Guy just seems to live in Panama. JMHO

coinman420

can you somehow see where is located? he states panama but couldn`t he just put anything in there when creating the acct?

21Walker

Shill bidding????? I don't think so.....just an idiot not knowing...........Rick

MadMarty

I have bought many coins from that seller with no problems. Coins that have been cleaned are listed and he ships from Calif. Sorry, I think you have this one pegged wrong!

AndyNC2005

Has over 8,000 positive feedbacks, a 99.7 score, and takes paypal. People shouldn't be so quick to jump on Ebay. If you know what you're doing, it can be a very positive experience.

bhartman35

Maybe it is shill bidding, but it doesn't look like it to me. It looks to me like panamared1951 put in his high bid, and jgmata766 kept bidding to try and beat it. In the end he got beaten by annualcoins, who he then outbid by $10 to win the coin.

The only thing that looks unusual to me here is, where did annualcoins get the time machine from?? On April 24 he beat jgmata766 with a bid placed on April 19. How does his bid placed on the 19th only show up on the 24th?

DeusExMachina

The bidding seems very strange--almost like jgmata766 is trying stretch out annualcoins bid.

I could be wrong but this auction seems strange to me.....

Conder101

The bidding looks ok to me. The only questionable thing I see is the Panamared1951 bid. Bu it was placed so early, for such a low amount, and they only bid one time so I doubt it is that much of a shill.



<< <i>The only thing that looks unusual to me here is, where did annualcoins get the time machine from?? On April 24 he beat jgmata766 with a bid placed on April 19. How does his bid placed on the 19th only show up on the 24th? >>


Annualcoins only placed one bid, on the 19th, for $700. That gave him the high bid and he stayed the high bidder until the 24th without having to place any more bids. They don't list his bid individually each time someone tries to out bid him and fails. jgmata766's bids simply show inexperience. But he didn't nickel and dime the bid. He did jump it 20 to 50 dollars each time.