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Keith Hernandez Remarks. Thoughts?
Axtell
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Anyone catch this clown's comments during yesterday's Mets/SD Game?
"Who is the girl in the dugout, with the long hair?" Hernandez said during the broadcast. "What's going on here? You have got to be kidding me. Only player personnel in the dugout."
Hernandez found out later in the broadcast that she had been with the Padres training staff since 2004, but stood by his comment that she didn't belong with the team during a game.
"I won't say that women belong in the kitchen, but they don't belong in the dugout," Hernandez said.
Hernandez, a former Mets first baseman, then laughed and said: "You know I am only teasing. I love you gals out there -- always have."
What a dope.
"Who is the girl in the dugout, with the long hair?" Hernandez said during the broadcast. "What's going on here? You have got to be kidding me. Only player personnel in the dugout."
Hernandez found out later in the broadcast that she had been with the Padres training staff since 2004, but stood by his comment that she didn't belong with the team during a game.
"I won't say that women belong in the kitchen, but they don't belong in the dugout," Hernandez said.
Hernandez, a former Mets first baseman, then laughed and said: "You know I am only teasing. I love you gals out there -- always have."
What a dope.
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Here is Axtell's response to the crap spewing from Gumble's mouth "
<< <i>Hey, last time I checked, this was a free country where people are allowed to express their opinions. You don't want to watch Bryant Gumble or listen to his rhetoric? Guess what, we have this amazing thing in this country called freedom to choose. CHANGE THE DAMNED CHANNEL.
>>
Now, replace "Bryant Gumble" with "Keith Hernandez" in those words of wisdom Ax
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Hernandez was out of line in showing his sexist agenda during what should be a social commentary free broadcast.
She has every right to be there as anyone...she's part of the team. The "90%" you speak of is, in my opinions, vastly overexaggerated.
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Steve
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Word in the paper was that she is the teams massage therapist. has been for a few years. Not sure if that allows her to be on the bench during a game or not. From what i always thought one had to be a trainer or coach to be in the dugout during a game.
perhaps she is a member of the training dept and thus is allowed for that reason
Not counting bat/ball gal/boys.
Steve
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Keith Hernandez reprimanded by Mets network for 'inappropriate' comments
April 24, 2006
NEW YORK (AP) -- Mets broadcaster Keith Hernandez was reprimanded by the team's television network for "inappropriate" remarks during a broadcast about a female member of San Diego's training staff.
The former MVP first baseman said women "don't belong in the dugout" when he spotted 33-year-old Kelly Calabrese, the Padres' full-time massage therapist, high-fiving Mike Piazza in the dugout after he hit a home run during New York's 8-1 victory Saturday in San Diego.
After Hernandez found out later in the broadcast that Calabrese was with the Padres training staff, he repeated that she shouldn't have been there. "I won't say that women belong in the kitchen, but they don't belong in the dugout," he said.
Hernandez, a former Mets star, then laughed and said: "You know I am only teasing. I love you gals out there -- always have."
"Keith Hernandez made inappropriate comments regarding the presence of a female massage therapist of the San Diego Padres who was in the dugout," SportsNet New York said in a statement Monday. "We immediately addressed the issue with Keith and reprimanded him, and he publicly apologized during Sunday's game."
Hernandez said Sunday that he was sorry if he offended anyone. He also said that baseball's rulebook allowed only the head trainer and assistant trainer in the dugout.
But a Major League Baseball memo previously sent to all clubs said that in addition to the two trainers, one member of the conditioning staff was permitted in the dugout during games. After Hernandez's remarks, MLB called the Padres and verified that, indeed, Calabrese was allowed.
Calabrese said Sunday that she was flabbergasted by Hernandez's comments.
"It's a little shocking but you know what -- it happens," she said. "He not only discredited me as a person, but he discredited women."
Padres chief executive officer Sandy Alderson also criticized Hernandez.
"Her competence and professionalism, not gender, are the important factors in her role with the club," he said Monday in a statement.
"Our society has made great strides in gender equity in recent years and that progress should be reflected as well in professional baseball," he said. "Keith's remarks were uninformed and were a disservice to Kelly and those women like her who have performed admirably in positions previously reserved for men."
You made the chain too long
What Bryant Gumble did was MUCH worse because it was well thought out in his commentary, agenda or no agenda.
But the most important question is.....do I get a happy ending with that massage?
And agree or disagree with Gumbel's agenda, at least he wasn't giving his speech during a game. That's why this is apples and oranges.
Hernadez however, does not have his own show. He is paid to provide commentary on the game. He is not paid to provide his opinion on the role of women in the dugout.
If Hernandez wants to talk about how women should not be in the dugout, he should do it on his own time...not company time.
Men AND women say sexist things all the time. If you don't like it, just ignore it.
As was stated above, much ado about nothing.
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Good to see I'm not the only one.
Sure she belongs there.
She was boning the team's bats.
<< <i>So you agree that his comments about his feelings towards the opposite sex are as disturbing as Rocker's racist, homophobic comments?
Good to see I'm not the only one. >>
I don't care what "audience" is the target of ANY program on TV. A comment is a comment. What Bryant Gumble had to say blows away what Hernandez had to say. Axtell supports Gumbles racist "opinions" under a smoke screen that Gumble made his RACIST remarks on a program of "social commentary" Am I the only one to see right through Axtell's FLIP FLOP head? While Hernadez's comments were obviously not appropriate, a RACIST remark is worse then a SEXIST remark. What a crock ......
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Sure we see right through this guy.
Hell, dlcayard was right on the money!
Steve
Gumble is paid by his employer to provide insight and social commentary. His employer, HBO, obviously had no issues with what he said.
Hernandez is paid by his employer to provide game analysis and commentary. His views about women, and their 'place', and baseball being a 'man's game' has no place in such environment. His employer obviously agreed, and he was (rightfully) reprimanded.
My opinions about what either said do not take away from Hernandez's comments being out of line for a baseball broadcast. If he wants to make such insipid comments, then he should work on getting his own show.
You fail to see that the context of the 2 broadcasts are why Hernandez's comments are so out of line.
I don't need a smoke screen of EXCUSES to know what is wrong and what is REALLY BAD wrong. I don't care if Gumble was in a alley in the city, in his bedroom, or being "paid by his employer to provide insight and social commentary". You are making excuses and supporting racist comments made by Gumble while making an everyday male chauvinist pig out to be the devil.
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you are railing for an argument with me, and I'm just not biting. Whether or not you agree with Hernandez's statements, you can't defend their place in a broadcast of a baseball game.
You are trying to get off topic and blast me for defending Gumble's statements, when this topic is about Hernandez.
Most of us read the same posts everyday so you're not fooling anyone here.
Thanks for contributing your insight and wisdom to this thread.
<< <i>softy-
you are railing for an argument with me, and I'm just not biting. Whether or not you agree with Hernandez's statements, you can't defend their place in a broadcast of a baseball game.
You are trying to get off topic and blast me for defending Gumble's statements, when this topic is about Hernandez. >>
Nah, just pointing out how quickly you turn face. Really, it does not matter what kind of show, where it is, or when it was. A comment is a comment is a comment. The color blue is still the color blue no matter how you look at it.
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I wouldn't expect anything else from him.
I wonder if he thinks George Bush was behind this too.
Softy, good to see you can't see through your hatred for me to see Gumbel's and Hernandez's forums are completely different for airing their personal opinions.