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Ebay cancelled my listings.....

I had 2 listings for 2006 heritage SP "pick 10" lots. I had a decent run for awhile before they found out about my "illegal" auctions. They explained that the auctions circumvented their fees. I wrote an e-mail to them saying...

Message: Exactly how is an auction that provides a "choice or pick " a
circumvention of fees?? I want an actual answer, not some textbook
answer that states a policy.
Jeff


We'll see what their answer is. It's kind of B.S. about their astions since nobody is getting ripped off. The seller gets what they want and Ebay gets their fees all the same. It's just a regular auction.

Just venting, Wick

Enjoy collecting vintage baseball cards, memorabilia and autos
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  • Thats exactly what you will get, a textbook answer stating policy. Ebay customer service people are all carefully chosen from a select pool of people who all lack any type of brain activity.......
  • Competition will be the only thing Ebay will respond to!
    My focus, 1970 Topps Baseball Raw and Graded, pre 1989 PSA Hockey and 1933 INDIAN GUM ! Yikes!!


  • << <i>I had 2 listings for 2006 heritage SP "pick 10" lots. I had a decent run for awhile before they found out about my "illegal" auctions. They explained that the auctions circumvented their fees. I wrote an e-mail to them saying...

    Message: Exactly how is an auction that provides a "choice or pick " a
    circumvention of fees?? I want an actual answer, not some textbook
    answer that states a policy.
    Jeff


    We'll see what their answer is. It's kind of B.S. about their astions since nobody is getting ripped off. The seller gets what they want and Ebay gets their fees all the same. It's just a regular auction.

    Just venting, Wick >>



    Someone might have reported you. Could be someone selling the same. I ran couple auctions about those selection cards and i got reported. i thought it's their system picking up those words "pick, select" words but I saw some auctions different from mine running several times from some sellers without problem. So I guess someone reported me. Did they refunded your insertion fees. I read somewhere on ebay that they will no longer refund those. Don't known if they did push through with it.

    RIP Snow
  • TZAHLTZAHL Posts: 649 ✭✭
    It doesn't matter with the words. I have tried 3 different ways, not using any of these words. Obviously somebody has me (and apparently you too) pegged and checks up on our auctions often. Probably another seller or some buyer you made mad. I wrote them and asked them how is it curcumvention and they replied it makes it more likely that sellers will do add ons.....blah blah blah
    Trying to complete:
    2000 Bowman Chrome
    2002 Topps Heritage NAP
    2003 Topps Heritage chrome and seat relics
    2006 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
    2007 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
    2008 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
    2006 Topps Heritage and Topps Chrome football
  • TZAHLTZAHL Posts: 649 ✭✭
    What about a dutch auction for cards from the set where you will 'take suggestions' on teams, players, etc.......??? Would this work?
    Trying to complete:
    2000 Bowman Chrome
    2002 Topps Heritage NAP
    2003 Topps Heritage chrome and seat relics
    2006 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
    2007 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
    2008 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
    2006 Topps Heritage and Topps Chrome football
  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    Anyone think topps complained to ebay about this? bc this hurts pack sales for them. bc i am down to 10 sp's and i am looking for those pick 10 listings of last year. i cant find them now.

    my thinking is maybe topps complained about it. bc now i have to buy more packs image
  • TZAHLTZAHL Posts: 649 ✭✭
    Although that crossed my mind, would topps waste their time with this?? And if they would, I think there wouldn't be so many 'slipping through the cracks'. I also asked Ebay who reported me. They said they did not have that recored (BS) and if they did, they couldn't tell me because of policy.
    Trying to complete:
    2000 Bowman Chrome
    2002 Topps Heritage NAP
    2003 Topps Heritage chrome and seat relics
    2006 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
    2007 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
    2008 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
    2006 Topps Heritage and Topps Chrome football
  • Ebay is like the Wizard in The Wizard of OZ.

    I suppose the wizard thinks that he can make more money off of you if you are forced to do the auctions with specific cards and have the auctions close with no bidders, thus taking more listing fee money from you.

    -Scott
    My sets:
    1977 Topps Star Wars - "Space Swashbucklers"
  • AkbarCloneAkbarClone Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭
    I would suggest listing an auction for "2006 Topps Heritage--10 card SP lot".

    List 10 specific cards you have for sale, but then in the description for the auction, say that you have a varied assortment of cards from this set, and that potential bidders can send you an "Ask the seller a question" before bidding and tell you what cards they need. If you have 10 of the cards from their wantlist, you reply "Go ahead and bid--if you win the auction you will get the 10 cards you want".
    I collect Vintage Cards, Commemorative Sets, and way too many vintage and modern player collections in Baseball (180 players), Football (175 players), and Basketball (87 players). Also have a Dallas Cowboy team collection.
  • Here's their response....

    Hello Jeff,

    Thank you for taking the time to write eBay with your concerns. I'm
    happy to help you further.

    To begin, please accept my apologies for the upset that our
    administrative action has caused. I have thoroughly reviewed the
    information you have provided as well as the information in your
    account. I have come to the conclusion that the appropriate action was
    taken in this case in accordance to our listing policy. Please allow me
    to further explain why this action was taken.

    Please understand that offering a choice of pre-made items is not
    permitted under our Choice guideline which is now under our
    Circumventing Fees policy. As you know, eBay makes it's fees based on
    the number on listings going live to the site. Auctions where a seller
    is giving the bidder the option to choose which items he would like
    defeats the eBay fee structure. Also, listings such as the one you have
    listed is potentially confusing to bidders as they would be unsure of
    exactly what you are offering. It is also unfair to those members that
    do list their items appropriately. Choice listings can be problematic
    because of the potential for fee circumvention, transactions outside of
    eBay, confusion amongst bidders and other issues.

    To bring your listing into compliance, you would need to offer each
    card
    in separate auctions.

    For more information on our Choice Listings policy, please visit the
    following URL:

    http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-choice.html

    I understand that this choice policy is a little confusing at times,
    but
    the point of it is to prevent sellers from giving a choice of pre-made
    items. The last thing we want to do is to have bidders upset because a
    seller offering choice of a pre-made item has run out of stock on a
    winning bidder's particular choice.

    I realize that it was not your intention to be in violation of our
    guidelines and that this most likely was an honest mistake. Please
    understand that this action is in no way meant to question your record
    with us as a valued member of the community. However, we must strive to
    maintain fair and consistent guidelines amongst all of our members.

    I would like you to know that when eBay cancels listings, we refund all
    fees associated with creating the listing. At this time, however, we
    are
    unable to actually relist auctions for our members, or send them copies
    of the removed items. You are completely free to relist, at your
    convenience and with the required corrections.

    It is my pleasure to assist you Jeff and I hope this helps you out.

    Kind Regards,

    Felipe
    eBay Community Watch


    Cliff note's version...

    Jeff,

    Don't list it as a single auction, list it as 50 separate auctions so that we may make more money.
    The almighty Ebay.

    Enjoy collecting vintage baseball cards, memorabilia and autos
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  • kingraider75kingraider75 Posts: 1,500 ✭✭
    maybe change the listing to 10 card lot, then just list them in separate auctions. Probably get about the same amount of money.
    Running an Ebay store sure takes a lot more time than a person would think!
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