I went to the bank yesterday......

IlikeZARcoins

and bought home some goodies:

My slabbed Zar coins ( not including the 7 getting slabbed at the moment ) & 4 odd coins ( USA, Dutch & German ):



My Eliasberg collection ( I have 4 more on the way ):



My 1980 Proof Sovereign set:



And part of my Rijksdaalder set ( this folder also houses my ZAR silver collection ):



As you can see I am still having trouble with that 50K limit.

Anyhow just thought that I'd photograph these and post them as they are heading back to safety this afternoon so it'll be a while before I see them again.

SYRACUSIAN

Nice collection!


What's the Saint's date?

IlikeZARcoins

Thanks Dimitri - I have more Gold, Ponds & Sovereigns etc but I didn't want to tempt fate so I let them be.

The Saint is an 1911-D MS65.

1jester

Nice hoard, ZAR!! But I have a question on the coins in 2x2s in the album: are they PVC or PVC-free?

IlikeZARcoins

I would hope in this day & age that they are PVC free.

The holders etc were bought in a specialist coin shop so I would assume that they sell PVC free holders.

How can I make 100% sure ? There is nothing mentioned on the boxes that the holders came in.

1jester

Please don't assume. There are a ton of unscrupulous dealers/suppliers out there only to make a buck/pound/euro, and they couldn't give a flying rat's a$$ if your precious coins are destroyed or not. Please only buy products that are advertised and described as 100% PVC free, such as E&T Cointainer's Saflips, which are made of Mylar, which is safe. Airtite capsules are another safe way to go. By the way, now you'll need to do a full acetone rinse on all those coins before replacing them in safe holders.

Here is a Hartberger coin-killer:

IlikeZARcoins

Hmmmm - Hartberger 2X2's are what my coins are in.

What's an Acetone rinse - where can I buy it & how do I do it ?

Is there a decent web based supplier for Mylar flips in Europe ?

drjules

Very nice 1980 proof set. I was offered one of those a few years back at a local coin show and I didn't have the funds at the time, big regrets

Dr J

IlikeZARcoins

Only 10K minted - I'd bet that some of those are damaged or broken up as well.

I had an eye on them for a while and eventually saw one locally but the guy was charging an arm & a leg for it. I ended up getting it on the bay. In hindsight I should have just rang Chards but it's a set I'll have for life so it doesn't really matter anyway.

Silvereagle82

Nice gold coins.
I can't make out the Eliasberg Gold .
Can you provide a brief list.

Numismatics

Nice collection!

1jester

Here are a few links relating to acetone. Read them all, and if your appetite isn't sated, then do a search for acetone and you'll find many more!

Text

Text 2

Text 3

Text 4

Text 5

Text 6

Text 7

Text 8

Text 9

Text 10

Text 11

Text 12

Text 13

Text 14

Text 15

Text 16

Text 17

Rickc300

Uhmmm.... I tried your link to acetone baths and got this message:

The page you were accessing requires variables to be passed to it.
Error Code: 100

Any ideas? I have bathed a few coins in the past with acetone to remove a sticky greenish film and would like to know more on the subject.

Thanks!
Rick

IlikeZARcoins

Same error message for me Jester.

Silvereagle - I will list the Eliasbers over the weekend when I have more time.

1jester

ttt w/fixed links.

trozau

My favorite set!

IlikeZARcoins

As requested - the coins pictured above:
ZAR


1897 Pond PCGS AU50 560743.50/21981594
1895 1/2 Pond NGC AU55 1879238-011
1900 Machadodorp Kaalpond W/ Rim NGC 1729584-006
1900 Kaalpenny 9.3GM NGC 2049061-002
1900 Lydenburg Kaalpond W/O Rim NGC 1878946-005
1900 Pond PCGS MS60 560744.60/21899310
1892 6D PCGS PR62 560652.62/21134335
1892 Shil PCGS PR63 560667.63/22002119


Eliasberg

1749M JB Spain 1/2E NGC AU53 1756201-008
1878 G.Britain 1/2 Sov NGC XF45 1839056-105
1884 G.Britain 1/2 Sov NGC XF45 1839056-108
1892 G.Britain 1/2 Sov NGC AU58 1839056-120
1873 M Australia 1 Sov NGC MS61 1839317-011
1875 S Australia 1 Sov NGC MS61 1839317-076
1748M JB Spain 1/2E NGC AU55 1756201-009
1916 Cuba G1P NGC MS62 1756201-011
1916 Peru Libra NGC MS63 1839254-137
1872 Sweden 10F NGC MS64 1839013-023
1872 S Australia 1 Sov NGC AU58 1839317-070
1899 KB Hungary 10K NGC AU58 1839059-010
1910 KB Hungary 10K NGC AU58 1839059-014
1855 Brazil 5000R NGC MS63 1839118-182
1892CN M Mexico G1P NGC MS62 1839221-141
1862 A France 20F NGC MS61 1839055-056

DeutscherGeist

Hartberger is self adhesive 2X2s are convenient to use but the glue compound are bad for coins in the long run. Therefore, I declare this product junk.

I am into baseball card collecting and more of an expert in that arena compared to this and I can say with confidence that there are "preservation" products out there that have no business in the hobby.

If they do not serve the collector's interest, they have no business being in business ripping off unsuspecting newbies who try and do what's best for their collection.

I am a bit surprised that this Dutch company is the way it is. Usually, Germany and the Netherlands don't make junk like this. If they do, the well educated public can quickly clamp down on this sort of company and drive it to its demise.

The Dutch and the Germans are well educated and informed collectors often criticizing the preservation junk that gets through to American collectors. I buy my capsules from Germany even though I live in Southern California. Actually, I have been under the tutelage of an expert German collector who got me started in this hobby in the first place.

1jester

The glue used in Hartberger's 2x2s is bad enough, but the real killer is the PVC plastic windows which tend to eat into the coin within weeks.

I agree with you, Geist, that such products have absolutely no place in numismatics, and the producers and spreaders of the disease should be drawn and quartered.