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1857 Liberty head type 1 $1 coin ?

HeavyHeavy Posts: 9
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Listed on ebay this week was a $1 1857 coin that was dark colored, chocolate brown, but appeared to be possibly gold in the small worn areas. My problem is that , assuming it actually is a gold 1857, why does it have a type 1 1849-1854 obverse and reverse. The rev. appears to be a closed wreath with the number 1 above the word dollar and the date 1857 inside the wreath. Does anyone have any info on such a coin? The coin does have United States of America on the reverse around the outter edge which is reeded. I bought the thing just for the heck of it, and now I need some info as to wether it is a genuine U.S. coin or geniune crap

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,498 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Got a pic? Gold dollars are heavily counterfeited. Sounds like this may be one.





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  • 100proof1957100proof1957 Posts: 6,231 ✭
    link the auction.
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  • DaveGDaveG Posts: 3,535 ✭
    Well, it's obviously not a genuine coin, unless either the date was wrong in the auction or the coin's date was altered for some reason.

    It might be a contemporary counterfeit, which, with the wrong date, would make it desirable to the folks who collect contemporary counterfeits.

    If, on the other hand, it's a 'modern' fantasy piece, then it would only have bullion value (assuming it has any gold in it).

    Why did you buy it?

    Check out the Southern Gold Society

  • HeavyHeavy Posts: 9
    If someone will tell me how to post the link I will. As far as why I bought it, basically I wanted to see it in person and the price was not too bad. I got it for $2 less than my max. curiosity bid.
  • 100proof1957100proof1957 Posts: 6,231 ✭
    just give us the URL and somebody will link it
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  • HeavyHeavy Posts: 9
    Try this. http://cgi.eBay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=840252021&ssPageName=ST
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    Link

    Looks like the listing was removed.
  • 100proof1957100proof1957 Posts: 6,231 ✭
    UMM ?

    did ya pay for it ?
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  • HeavyHeavy Posts: 9
    Yeah I sent in the payment. I figured I've spent more on worse in my life. Probably a good thing I don't get too curious very often.
  • 100proof1957100proof1957 Posts: 6,231 ✭
    And you paid how much ?
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  • HeavyHeavy Posts: 9
    A grand total of 66.00
  • 100proof1957100proof1957 Posts: 6,231 ✭
    just ran in to this one.

    2 different coins,the 1 in hand is an obvious forgery !

    unless you are very confident in what you are buying,stick to pcgs or ngc coins,the premium for a certified item is well worth it !

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    Proof
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  • 100proof1957100proof1957 Posts: 6,231 ✭
    66 bucks was the clue

    even ex jewelry brings more than that.

    ask paypal for yur money back NOW !
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  • HeavyHeavy Posts: 9
    I am not expecting to get a good deal here, I figured it is a fake or possibly an old counterfiet copper that had been plated which would be a pleasant surprise if for no other reason than a conversation piece.
  • 100proof1957100proof1957 Posts: 6,231 ✭
    Heavy,

    turn on your Private Message function !
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,498 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>just ran in to this one.

    2 different coins,the 1 in hand is an obvious forgery !

    unless you are very confident in what you are buying,stick to pcgs or ngc coins,the premium for a certified item is well worth it !

    Text

    Proof >>



    The one in hand looks like a half eagle. He is showing the wrong pic.



    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • 100proof1957100proof1957 Posts: 6,231 ✭
    Perry,

    the 1 in hand may be a 1/4 eagle (whizzed POS)

    still a very misleading ad !
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,498 ✭✭✭✭✭
    100proof1957---Actually it looks like an eagle. Its diameter is about 1 1/2 times the width of his middle finger so its about the right size for an eagle. I agree with your observation that it is whizzed, polished, or harshly cleaned in some fashion.


    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • 100proof1957100proof1957 Posts: 6,231 ✭
    Perry

    i meant 1/2 eagle but u are likely correct on the EAGLE !

    i own a 1/4 eagle and its about the the size of the tip of my index finger.

    Prood
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