<< <i>So by occasional you mean once every 25 years? Uhm ok, if that floats your boat, sure. >>
And the Sucs have been in the league for how long and been there how many times?
No question. Over the last ten years the Eagles have done more with their chances in the playoffs than the Bucs. I'll take that over winning one SB and going one and out in just about every other playoff round.
The Bucs did it once but all the other years they blew the chance.
You can keep your flash in the pan.
Gruden will be done after 06.
<< <i><< Would you rather have a team that tanks nine years out of ten, missing the playoffs each year, then winning a title? That's fine but nine years out of ten you'll sit during the post season. >> >>
I wasn't referring to the Bucs. Perhaps you should pay attention.
<< <i>So by occasional you mean once every 25 years? Uhm ok, if that floats your boat, sure. >>
And the Sucs have been in the league for how long and been there how many times? >>
The Eagles have been in the league how many years and have been there how many times?
<< <i> No question. Over the last ten years the Eagles have done more with their chances in the playoffs than the Bucs. I'll take that over winning one SB and going one and out in just about every other playoff round. >>
They've done more? How many super bowls have the Eagles won, sparky? ZERO. You've DONE NOTHING WITH ALL YOUR PLAYOFF APPEARANCES, YOU DOPE!
<< <i>The Bucs did it once but all the other years they blew the chance. >>
And the eagles have BLOWN ALL THEIR CHANCES!!!
<< <i>You can keep your flash in the pan.
Gruden will be done after 06. >>
hah please...Reid will be done in Philly before Gruden's done in Tampa.
<< <i> I wasn't referring to the Bucs. Perhaps you should pay attention. >>
Yes you were, you were talking to me, and therefore my team. Who were you talking about?
I was giving a hypothetical reference and therefore did not mention a particular team. Guess that rhetorical thinking is not your strong point.
Then again fantasy is. Yeah Joe D. practically bribed the scorekeepers to give him hits. Did he promise them sexual favors from Marilyn Monroe too? That accusation borders on being un-American.
My team?
You do not play for a team. They are not your team, we, us, or any other reference connected to your person.
They play. You sit.
They lose. You try to make them the best thing that happened since Joe Freakin DiMaggio!
I think that all of us are done with you. The poll shows it.
<< <i> Then again fantasy is. Yeah Joe D. practically bribed the scorekeepers to give him hits. Did he promise them sexual favors from Marilyn Monroe too? That accusation borders on being un-American. >>
Talk about overexaggerating...jesus man get a grip.
<< <i>My team? >>
Yes YOUR team as in the team YOU root for...good god you're delusional.
<< <i> The Eagles have been in the league how many years and have been there how many times?
>>
Guys, this is the same guy who goes BALLISTIC the SECOND a Yankee fan dares and talks about 26 titles. What a phony .... >>
Softy-
A phony? The difference between the yankees buying their titles with the highest payroll is that in football, over the past dozen or so years, every team has been on the same playing field as far as payroll goes.
Anyways, who invited you? Do I need to squash you yet again?
The bucs have been to as many NFC title games as the Eagles....The fought the greatest show on turf and held them to three filed goal while using a rookie at QB. The second game they won and they blew out the Raiders in the superbowl.
What have the Eagles done?
How can you say the Eagles have done more when they have no rings? The only people who mention second place are Bills and Viking fans. You are truly pathetic to think that the Eagles will do anything but show up wearing dresses, lipstick and kneepads come October.....accept it!
<< <i> Anyways, who invited you? Do I need to squash you yet again? >>
I invited myself punk. If you don't like it, get the fu$k out.
What would your socialistic and liberal a$$ like? Would you like the New York Yankees to NOT try as hard as they are ABLE to? Is that what you want? A BIG LEAGUE team that is forced to CONSTRAIN themselves so that the weak somehow are considered on the same level?
And the NFL ..... what makes you think the game is better off then it was before free agency and a salary cap? Could it be your socialistic/liberal view on everything? I think so. Many, many, many years before you knew what a football was the supposed "small markets" of Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Kansas City, etc had GREAT success.
<< <i> I invited myself punk. If you don't like it, get the fu$k out. >>
You're the one who needs to leave...after all, you repeatedly have called this forum a 'cesspool' (your words, idiot, not mine).
<< <i>What would your socialistic and liberal a$$ like? Would you like the New York Yankees to NOT try as hard as they are ABLE to? Is that what you want? A BIG LEAGUE team that is forced to CONSTRAIN themselves so that the weak somehow are considered on the same level? >>
I think the man you used to have in your signature line, Wellington Mara, knew for the good of the game (and not his OWN selfish interests) true revenue sharing would make the game better overall. Would you have dared called Mr. Mara a 'socialist liberal ass'? Hah! I don't see how can supposedly idolize him, yet crow about how the Yankees are just 'trying to win'. Please. All the Yankees do is not 'try as hard as they are ABLE to do', they just outspend everyone because they can. Of course they are going to spend as much as they can. But for you to brag about how 'great' the yankees are, maybe you should remember Mr. Wellington's ideals and how baseball would be better off with his ideas instituted in baseball.
<< <i>And the NFL ..... what makes you think the game is better off then it was before free agency and a salary cap? Could it be your socialistic/liberal view on everything? I think so. Many, many, many years before you knew what a football was the supposed "small markets" of Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Kansas City, etc had GREAT success. >>
Yes, that was before huge national and regional TV contracts, where players played not for money, but for the love of the game. They played hard and in the offseason held second jobs. These small markets in football would struggle JUST like in baseball, if there were no revenue sharing or salary cap. Get a clue, bub.
<< <i>You are a PHONY >>
No, sir, the phony is you. You claimed to admire Mr. Mara by flying his photo in your signature line for a few weeks after his passing, but all you care about is 'how much can my team spend?' 'how many more free agent all stars can we acquire?' yadda yadda yadda. You care nothing about the game, you simply spout off like a petulant child non-stop 'mine! mine! mine!'
<< <i> Of course they are going to spend as much as they can. But for you to brag about how 'great' the yankees are, maybe you should remember Mr. Wellington's ideals and how baseball would be better off with his ideas instituted in baseball. >>
No bragging about the Yankees from me skippy. Unless of course I AM NOT ALLOWED to mention 26 years of Championship play. Mr Wellington Mara did wonders for a sport that was floundering you idiot. Baseball has NEVER floundered. Major League baseball constantly tries to kill itself off. It can't, its not possible. Football at a vunerable time was FLOUNDERING and in stepped men like Wellington Mara. Stop talking like you know what you are talking about.
<< <i>Yes, that was before huge national and regional TV contracts, where players played not for money, but for the love of the game. >>
Oh my goodness are you an idiot Oh yes Ax, players back in the day just loved the game so much that they would play for free
<< <i>No, sir, the phony is you. You claimed to admire Mr. Mara by flying his photo in your signature line for a few weeks after his passing, but all you care about is 'how much can my team spend?' 'how many more free agent all stars can we acquire?' yadda yadda yadda. You care nothing about the game, you simply spout off like a petulant child non-stop 'mine! mine! mine!' >>
I had Wellington Mara's pic in my sig Ax because he was a FOUNDING FATHER of a league that you have watched for only a few short years now. It had nothing to do with revenue sharing and supporting the weak and feable franchises that would NOT SURVIVE playing in pi$$ poor sports towns like those kept afloat by REAL big league teams. Consider yourself lucky that a guy like Wellington Mara has given you something to cry about.
<< <i>No bragging about the Yankees from me skippy. Unless of course I AM NOT ALLOWED to mention 26 years of Championship play. Mr Wellington Mara did wonders for a sport that was floundering you idiot. Baseball has NEVER floundered. Major League baseball constantly tries to kill itself off. It can't, its not possible. Football at a vunerable time was FLOUNDERING and in stepped men like Wellington Mara. Stop talking like you know what you are talking about. >>
You claim to know so much about everything NY, perhaps you should do a little reading and research before you run your yap (who am I kidding, a yankee fan that is enlightened? They don't exist!) Mr. Mara had more class and foresight than anyone who's ever been in the yankee camp. From the NY Giants own website, ya dope:
"He has recognized for always putting the league’s interests ahead of what was best for the Giants."
Also, the following from an article:
"The NFL named its football after Wellington Mara, who was one of the men who insisted that NFL clubs split television rights fees equally. As owner of the New York Giants and parked in the biggest television market in the United States, Mara could have been greedy, but he saw a bigger picture.
''When the league got its first television contract, he realized it had to be equally distributed so everybody could be competitive. That was a major thing that he did, along with his brother, Jack. Even though they had the largest television market, he said the money should be distributed equally. They knew it was better for football and the future of football by sharing the money equally. He was the one, along with his brother Jack, who made that sacrifice. He not only made that sacrifice, it was his idea.''"
The NFL, due to its revenue sharing and 'league first' (not team first) mentality is the reason the NFL is by far the #1 sport in America.
<< <i>Yes, that was before huge national and regional TV contracts, where players played not for money, but for the love of the game. >>
Oh my goodness are you an idiot Oh yes Ax, players back in the day just loved the game so much that they would play for free >>
Did I say for free, ya simple minded dope? But baseball and football players alike played for peanuts compared to what they do today. Yes, the biggest superstars enjoyed 6 figure salaries, but those were few and far between. The average joe was not paid handsomely at all, and yes, you twit, they did love the game, and not just the paycheck.
<< <i>I had Wellington Mara's pic in my sig Ax because he was a FOUNDING FATHER of a league that you have watched for only a few short years now. It had nothing to do with revenue sharing and supporting the weak and feable franchises that would NOT SURVIVE playing in pi$$ poor sports towns like those kept afloat by REAL big league teams. Consider yourself lucky that a guy like Wellington Mara has given you something to cry about. >>
The one who should be crying is YOU. Despite the yankees desperately trying to buy another championship, spending $200 million + per year to do so, they continue to fall short. All it does it hurt the small market teams, as the Bostons, the Anaheims, and the like have to ramp up spending to be competitive. The yankees aren't trying any harder than the Oaklands, the Pittsburghs, or the Milwaukees of the world, they just have the luxury to hide their numerous mistakes with bigger and bigger contracts. The yankees actually have an easier time of it to succeed than the ones I mentioned.
What arrogant yankee fans like YOU need to understand is you need the small market teams as much as they need you - no matter how big and loud you want to get, it's the truth. What happens when those teams no longer want to play ball, and fold up? Would you prefer a league with 6 teams? I mean I know you would, as you might actually get your team to win another world series, but without sharing of TV revenue, you might as well.
You're so damn arrogant, thinking that the yankees are such a superior franchise, that they are somehow entitled to all the best players. How sad is it that you don't give a damn about the game, only about trying to buy your way to a championship?
Go do some research before you post again...you're far too easy to beat down.
<< <i> "The NFL named its football after Wellington Mara, who was one of the men who insisted that NFL clubs split television rights fees equally. As owner of the New York Giants and parked in the biggest television market in the United States, Mara could have been greedy, but he saw a bigger picture.
"He has recognized for always putting the league’s interests ahead of what was best for the Giants." >>
No $hit Sherlock, this is WHY you are lucky that Mr. Mara gave you a reason to whine and cry ya complete half wit. And it would NOT be greedy if Mara or anyone else wanted to maximise his earning potential. But boobs like you want the government to control the price of bread too so you are never happy.
<< <i>Did I say for free, ya simple minded dope? But baseball and football players alike played for peanuts compared to what they do today. Yes, the biggest superstars enjoyed 6 figure salaries, but those were few and far between. The average joe was not paid handsomely at all, and yes, you twit, they did love the game, and not just the paycheck. >>
This is what you said moron ----- "where players played not for money, but for the love of the game" Ummmm, so yeah ya punk, YOU DID certainly imply players would play for free as they just oh sooooo loved the game back in the day that they played for the luuuuuv
<< <i>The yankees aren't trying any harder than the Oaklands, the Pittsburghs, or the Milwaukees of the world >>
They most certainly are. All three of these teams choose financial gain over winning. Very MINOR league of them. If they PAID to get the players the fans would PAY more to see them.
<< <i>Would you prefer a league with 6 teams? >>
well, more than six. Two 10 team leagues thank you very much. You know, REAL big league towns. You can take your whining and crying the small market blues where it BELONGS. The minor leagues ....
<< <i> No $hit Sherlock, this is WHY you are lucky that Mr. Mara gave you a reason to whine and cry ya complete half wit. And it would NOT be greedy if Mara or anyone else wanted to maximise his earning potential. But boobs like you want the government to control the price of bread too so you are never happy. >>
No, dummy, you're lucky that you happen to follow the team with the biggest earning potential, nothing more. Living in NY doesn't make you inherently a better fan you twit.
<< <i> This is what you said moron ----- "where players played not for money, but for the love of the game" Ummmm, so yeah ya punk, YOU DID certainly imply players would play for free as they just oh sooooo loved the game back in the day that they played for the luuuuuv >>
Back then the average player's salary wasn't that far out of line with the average worker in the US...and if you've ever watch 'for the love of the game' series then you'd see a different type of player THEN as opposed to today.
<< <i>They most certainly are. All three of these teams choose financial gain over winning. Very MINOR league of them. If they PAID to get the players the fans would PAY more to see them. >>
No they don't. Just because they don't spend hundreds of millions of dollars doesn't mean they don't spend. I would suspect they spend a larger percentage of their revenues than the yankees do. The A's don't choose to win? They've been a very consistent team reaching the playoffs? They haven't been a winning franchise? hah. As you like to say, 'OWNED!'
<< <i>well, more than six. Two 10 team leagues thank you very much. You know, REAL big league towns. You can take your whining and crying the small market blues where it BELONGS. The minor leagues .... >>
How pathetic and how arrogant you sound. That only teams that are fortunate to have millions and millions of people and huge TV contracts are 'worthy' in your eyes to have a MLB franchise. And you wonder why non-Yankee fans hate you guys so much? it's this spiteful arrogance that you are somehow better than 'small market' teams, that you see them as a minor league system to develop players for your fat, lazy owner to pluck from (as its obvious your team has NO idea how to develop talent of its own).
You want to contract over 1/3 of MLB teams? REAL big league towns? And what would you say to the proud franchises like the pittsburghs, the kansas cities? 'Sorry fellas, your team just isn't uber enough to compete with us. See ya!'
You're a clown, and your attitude is just what makes REAL sports fans wish you'd just go away...leave the sports talk to REAL fans, not arrogant blowhards who feel the rest of the league is beneath them.
<< <i>You want to contract over 1/3 of MLB teams? REAL big league towns? And what would you say to the proud franchises like the pittsburghs, the kansas cities? 'Sorry fellas, your team just isn't uber enough to compete with us. See ya!' >>
oh hell no Ax who do you think I am? I wouldn't dare want to tell a proud crappy franchise whomever they might be that they have to go. Nah, just let em wither on the vine all by themselves. They will eventually weed themselves out without ME having to tell them to go.
<< <i>You're a clown, and your attitude is just what makes REAL sports fans wish you'd just go away...leave the sports talk to REAL fans, not arrogant blowhards who feel the rest of the league is beneath them. >>
Real sports fans like YOU ax who started watching his Mariners when A-Rod came to town? yeah right
Has it ever occurred to you that it amuses me to see you fly off the deep end like this. Hell, I'll say anyhthing just to bring out your bombastic attitude. You are easily toyed with numbnuts
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<< <i>So by occasional you mean once every 25 years? Uhm ok, if that floats your boat, sure. >>
And the Sucs have been in the league for how long and been there how many times?
No question. Over the last ten years the Eagles have done more with their chances in the playoffs than the Bucs. I'll take that over winning one SB and going one and out in just about every other playoff round.
The Bucs did it once but all the other years they blew the chance.
You can keep your flash in the pan.
Gruden will be done after 06.
<< <i><< Would you rather have a team that tanks nine years out of ten, missing the playoffs each year, then winning a title? That's fine but nine years out of ten you'll sit during the post season. >> >>
I wasn't referring to the Bucs. Perhaps you should pay attention.
<< <i>
<< <i>So by occasional you mean once every 25 years? Uhm ok, if that floats your boat, sure. >>
And the Sucs have been in the league for how long and been there how many times? >>
The Eagles have been in the league how many years and have been there how many times?
<< <i>
No question. Over the last ten years the Eagles have done more with their chances in the playoffs than the Bucs. I'll take that over winning one SB and going one and out in just about every other playoff round.
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They've done more? How many super bowls have the Eagles won, sparky? ZERO. You've DONE NOTHING WITH ALL YOUR PLAYOFF APPEARANCES, YOU DOPE!
<< <i>The Bucs did it once but all the other years they blew the chance.
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And the eagles have BLOWN ALL THEIR CHANCES!!!
<< <i>You can keep your flash in the pan.
Gruden will be done after 06.
>>
hah please...Reid will be done in Philly before Gruden's done in Tampa.
<< <i>
I wasn't referring to the Bucs. Perhaps you should pay attention. >>
Yes you were, you were talking to me, and therefore my team. Who were you talking about?
Sparky?
There you go again with the name calling.
I was giving a hypothetical reference and therefore did not mention a particular team. Guess that rhetorical thinking is not your strong point.
Then again fantasy is. Yeah Joe D. practically bribed the scorekeepers to give him hits. Did he promise them sexual favors from Marilyn Monroe too? That accusation borders on being un-American.
My team?
You do not play for a team. They are not your team, we, us, or any other reference connected to your person.
They play. You sit.
They lose. You try to make them the best thing that happened since Joe Freakin DiMaggio!
I think that all of us are done with you. The poll shows it.
<< <i>
The Eagles have been in the league how many years and have been there how many times?
>>
Guys, this is the same guy who goes BALLISTIC the SECOND a Yankee fan dares and talks about 26 titles. What a phony ....
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<< <i>
Then again fantasy is. Yeah Joe D. practically bribed the scorekeepers to give him hits. Did he promise them sexual favors from Marilyn Monroe too? That accusation borders on being un-American.
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Talk about overexaggerating...jesus man get a grip.
<< <i>My team?
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Yes YOUR team as in the team YOU root for...good god you're delusional.
<< <i>
<< <i>
The Eagles have been in the league how many years and have been there how many times?
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Guys, this is the same guy who goes BALLISTIC the SECOND a Yankee fan dares and talks about 26 titles. What a phony .... >>
Softy-
A phony? The difference between the yankees buying their titles with the highest payroll is that in football, over the past dozen or so years, every team has been on the same playing field as far as payroll goes.
Anyways, who invited you? Do I need to squash you yet again?
filed goal while using a rookie at QB. The second game they won and they blew out the Raiders in the superbowl.
What have the Eagles done?
How can you say the Eagles have done more when they have no rings? The only people who mention second place are Bills and Viking
fans. You are truly pathetic to think that the Eagles will do anything but show up wearing dresses, lipstick and kneepads come October.....accept it!
JS
see kevin this is where you are wrong. vikings and bills at least made it there 4 times.. eagles only made it once in 4 tries and still lost LOL
sorry eagles fans couldnt resist!
<< <i> Anyways, who invited you? Do I need to squash you yet again? >>
I invited myself punk. If you don't like it, get the fu$k out.
What would your socialistic and liberal a$$ like? Would you like the New York Yankees to NOT try as hard as they are ABLE to? Is that what you want? A BIG LEAGUE team that is forced to CONSTRAIN themselves so that the weak somehow are considered on the same level?
And the NFL ..... what makes you think the game is better off then it was before free agency and a salary cap? Could it be your socialistic/liberal view on everything? I think so. Many, many, many years before you knew what a football was the supposed "small markets" of Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Kansas City, etc had GREAT success.
You are a PHONY
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<< <i>
I invited myself punk. If you don't like it, get the fu$k out.
>>
You're the one who needs to leave...after all, you repeatedly have called this forum a 'cesspool' (your words, idiot, not mine).
<< <i>What would your socialistic and liberal a$$ like? Would you like the New York Yankees to NOT try as hard as they are ABLE to? Is that what you want? A BIG LEAGUE team that is forced to CONSTRAIN themselves so that the weak somehow are considered on the same level?
>>
I think the man you used to have in your signature line, Wellington Mara, knew for the good of the game (and not his OWN selfish interests) true revenue sharing would make the game better overall. Would you have dared called Mr. Mara a 'socialist liberal ass'? Hah! I don't see how can supposedly idolize him, yet crow about how the Yankees are just 'trying to win'. Please. All the Yankees do is not 'try as hard as they are ABLE to do', they just outspend everyone because they can. Of course they are going to spend as much as they can. But for you to brag about how 'great' the yankees are, maybe you should remember Mr. Wellington's ideals and how baseball would be better off with his ideas instituted in baseball.
<< <i>And the NFL ..... what makes you think the game is better off then it was before free agency and a salary cap? Could it be your socialistic/liberal view on everything? I think so. Many, many, many years before you knew what a football was the supposed "small markets" of Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Kansas City, etc had GREAT success. >>
Yes, that was before huge national and regional TV contracts, where players played not for money, but for the love of the game. They played hard and in the offseason held second jobs. These small markets in football would struggle JUST like in baseball, if there were no revenue sharing or salary cap. Get a clue, bub.
<< <i>You are a PHONY >>
No, sir, the phony is you. You claimed to admire Mr. Mara by flying his photo in your signature line for a few weeks after his passing, but all you care about is 'how much can my team spend?' 'how many more free agent all stars can we acquire?' yadda yadda yadda. You care nothing about the game, you simply spout off like a petulant child non-stop 'mine! mine! mine!'
Go away, chump.
<< <i> Of course they are going to spend as much as they can. But for you to brag about how 'great' the yankees are, maybe you should remember Mr. Wellington's ideals and how baseball would be better off with his ideas instituted in baseball. >>
No bragging about the Yankees from me skippy. Unless of course I AM NOT ALLOWED to mention 26 years of Championship play. Mr Wellington Mara did wonders for a sport that was floundering you idiot. Baseball has NEVER floundered. Major League baseball constantly tries to kill itself off. It can't, its not possible. Football at a vunerable time was FLOUNDERING and in stepped men like Wellington Mara. Stop talking like you know what you are talking about.
<< <i>Yes, that was before huge national and regional TV contracts, where players played not for money, but for the love of the game. >>
Oh my goodness are you an idiot
<< <i>No, sir, the phony is you. You claimed to admire Mr. Mara by flying his photo in your signature line for a few weeks after his passing, but all you care about is 'how much can my team spend?' 'how many more free agent all stars can we acquire?' yadda yadda yadda. You care nothing about the game, you simply spout off like a petulant child non-stop 'mine! mine! mine!'
>>
I had Wellington Mara's pic in my sig Ax because he was a FOUNDING FATHER of a league that you have watched for only a few short years now. It had nothing to do with revenue sharing and supporting the weak and feable franchises that would NOT SURVIVE playing in pi$$ poor sports towns like those kept afloat by REAL big league teams. Consider yourself lucky that a guy like Wellington Mara has given you something to cry about.
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<< <i>No bragging about the Yankees from me skippy. Unless of course I AM NOT ALLOWED to mention 26 years of Championship play. Mr Wellington Mara did wonders for a sport that was floundering you idiot. Baseball has NEVER floundered. Major League baseball constantly tries to kill itself off. It can't, its not possible. Football at a vunerable time was FLOUNDERING and in stepped men like Wellington Mara. Stop talking like you know what you are talking about.
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You claim to know so much about everything NY, perhaps you should do a little reading and research before you run your yap (who am I kidding, a yankee fan that is enlightened? They don't exist!) Mr. Mara had more class and foresight than anyone who's ever been in the yankee camp. From the NY Giants own website, ya dope:
"He has recognized for always putting the league’s interests ahead of what was best for the Giants."
Also, the following from an article:
"The NFL named its football after Wellington Mara, who was one of the men who insisted that NFL clubs split television rights fees equally. As owner of the New York Giants and parked in the biggest television market in the United States, Mara could have been greedy, but he saw a bigger picture.
''When the league got its first television contract, he realized it had to be equally distributed so everybody could be competitive. That was a major thing that he did, along with his brother, Jack. Even though they had the largest television market, he said the money should be distributed equally. They knew it was better for football and the future of football by sharing the money equally. He was the one, along with his brother Jack, who made that sacrifice. He not only made that sacrifice, it was his idea.''"
The NFL, due to its revenue sharing and 'league first' (not team first) mentality is the reason the NFL is by far the #1 sport in America.
<< <i>Yes, that was before huge national and regional TV contracts, where players played not for money, but for the love of the game. >>
Oh my goodness are you an idiot
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Did I say for free, ya simple minded dope? But baseball and football players alike played for peanuts compared to what they do today. Yes, the biggest superstars enjoyed 6 figure salaries, but those were few and far between. The average joe was not paid handsomely at all, and yes, you twit, they did love the game, and not just the paycheck.
<< <i>I had Wellington Mara's pic in my sig Ax because he was a FOUNDING FATHER of a league that you have watched for only a few short years now. It had nothing to do with revenue sharing and supporting the weak and feable franchises that would NOT SURVIVE playing in pi$$ poor sports towns like those kept afloat by REAL big league teams. Consider yourself lucky that a guy like Wellington Mara has given you something to cry about.
The one who should be crying is YOU. Despite the yankees desperately trying to buy another championship, spending $200 million + per year to do so, they continue to fall short. All it does it hurt the small market teams, as the Bostons, the Anaheims, and the like have to ramp up spending to be competitive. The yankees aren't trying any harder than the Oaklands, the Pittsburghs, or the Milwaukees of the world, they just have the luxury to hide their numerous mistakes with bigger and bigger contracts. The yankees actually have an easier time of it to succeed than the ones I mentioned.
What arrogant yankee fans like YOU need to understand is you need the small market teams as much as they need you - no matter how big and loud you want to get, it's the truth. What happens when those teams no longer want to play ball, and fold up? Would you prefer a league with 6 teams? I mean I know you would, as you might actually get your team to win another world series, but without sharing of TV revenue, you might as well.
You're so damn arrogant, thinking that the yankees are such a superior franchise, that they are somehow entitled to all the best players. How sad is it that you don't give a damn about the game, only about trying to buy your way to a championship?
Go do some research before you post again...you're far too easy to beat down.
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"The NFL named its football after Wellington Mara, who was one of the men who insisted that NFL clubs split television rights fees equally. As owner of the New York Giants and parked in the biggest television market in the United States, Mara could have been greedy, but he saw a bigger picture.
"He has recognized for always putting the league’s interests ahead of what was best for the Giants." >>
No $hit Sherlock, this is WHY you are lucky that Mr. Mara gave you a reason to whine and cry ya complete half wit. And it would NOT be greedy if Mara or anyone else wanted to maximise his earning potential. But boobs like you want the government to control the price of bread too so you are never happy.
<< <i>Did I say for free, ya simple minded dope? But baseball and football players alike played for peanuts compared to what they do today. Yes, the biggest superstars enjoyed 6 figure salaries, but those were few and far between. The average joe was not paid handsomely at all, and yes, you twit, they did love the game, and not just the paycheck. >>
This is what you said moron ----- "where players played not for money, but for the love of the game" Ummmm, so yeah ya punk, YOU DID certainly imply players would play for free as they just oh sooooo loved the game back in the day that they played for the luuuuuv
<< <i>The yankees aren't trying any harder than the Oaklands, the Pittsburghs, or the Milwaukees of the world >>
They most certainly are. All three of these teams choose financial gain over winning. Very MINOR league of them. If they PAID to get the players the fans would PAY more to see them.
<< <i>Would you prefer a league with 6 teams? >>
well, more than six. Two 10 team leagues thank you very much. You know, REAL big league towns. You can take your whining and crying the small market blues where it BELONGS. The minor leagues ....
Ax, you have been OWNED
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No $hit Sherlock, this is WHY you are lucky that Mr. Mara gave you a reason to whine and cry ya complete half wit. And it would NOT be greedy if Mara or anyone else wanted to maximise his earning potential. But boobs like you want the government to control the price of bread too so you are never happy.
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No, dummy, you're lucky that you happen to follow the team with the biggest earning potential, nothing more. Living in NY doesn't make you inherently a better fan you twit.
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This is what you said moron ----- "where players played not for money, but for the love of the game" Ummmm, so yeah ya punk, YOU DID certainly imply players would play for free as they just oh sooooo loved the game back in the day that they played for the luuuuuv
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Back then the average player's salary wasn't that far out of line with the average worker in the US...and if you've ever watch 'for the love of the game' series then you'd see a different type of player THEN as opposed to today.
<< <i>They most certainly are. All three of these teams choose financial gain over winning. Very MINOR league of them. If they PAID to get the players the fans would PAY more to see them. >>
No they don't. Just because they don't spend hundreds of millions of dollars doesn't mean they don't spend. I would suspect they spend a larger percentage of their revenues than the yankees do. The A's don't choose to win? They've been a very consistent team reaching the playoffs? They haven't been a winning franchise? hah. As you like to say, 'OWNED!'
<< <i>well, more than six. Two 10 team leagues thank you very much. You know, REAL big league towns. You can take your whining and crying the small market blues where it BELONGS. The minor leagues ....
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How pathetic and how arrogant you sound. That only teams that are fortunate to have millions and millions of people and huge TV contracts are 'worthy' in your eyes to have a MLB franchise. And you wonder why non-Yankee fans hate you guys so much? it's this spiteful arrogance that you are somehow better than 'small market' teams, that you see them as a minor league system to develop players for your fat, lazy owner to pluck from (as its obvious your team has NO idea how to develop talent of its own).
You want to contract over 1/3 of MLB teams? REAL big league towns? And what would you say to the proud franchises like the pittsburghs, the kansas cities? 'Sorry fellas, your team just isn't uber enough to compete with us. See ya!'
You're a clown, and your attitude is just what makes REAL sports fans wish you'd just go away...leave the sports talk to REAL fans, not arrogant blowhards who feel the rest of the league is beneath them.
<< <i>You want to contract over 1/3 of MLB teams? REAL big league towns? And what would you say to the proud franchises like the pittsburghs, the kansas cities? 'Sorry fellas, your team just isn't uber enough to compete with us. See ya!' >>
oh hell no Ax who do you think I am? I wouldn't dare want to tell a proud crappy franchise whomever they might be that they have to go. Nah, just let em wither on the vine all by themselves. They will eventually weed themselves out without ME having to tell them to go.
<< <i>You're a clown, and your attitude is just what makes REAL sports fans wish you'd just go away...leave the sports talk to REAL fans, not arrogant blowhards who feel the rest of the league is beneath them. >>
Real sports fans like YOU ax who started watching his Mariners when A-Rod came to town? yeah right
Has it ever occurred to you that it amuses me to see you fly off the deep end like this.
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