PSA Graded Phantom tickets?

baseballfanatic

I was just doing a search on Ebay for some tickets, and game accross two "phantom" tickets that were graded by PSA as "Authentic". Maybe I'm going overboard on this, but there are thousands upon thousands of phantoms out there since most teams that were in the playoff races in early September were given permission to print tickets, and since they have no game or seat number on them, everyone has always considered them as useless. The tickets are labeled as "phantom/no game x played" and "authentic"!
At least they are for an actual World Series that came about, but I was thinking about all those bricks of 1964 Phillies tickets among others that spring into mind right away. Does anyone else think this is good for the hobby?

Stone193

<< <i>Does anyone else think this is good for the hobby? >>


I'm not sure I understand the question?

Phantom ticks just like phantom press pins were made up to be used in the real deal. The fact that the team didn't make the playoffs or WS doesn't change the "intent" of the product.

These two items along with penants, e.g., are legitimate pieces of baseball memorabilia.

Now, the fact that there may be loads of the phantom ticks will affect how much one would have to pay but they're still legitimate IMO.

In fact, I own a few phantoms ticks and press pins.

Interesting you mentioned the 64 Phillies - I picked up the press pin from a good seller from PA and returned it because I thought it was the ugliest thing I had ever seen. They can usually be picked up pretty reasonable for that matter.

Phantom items are "part" of the hobby collectibles market - good or bad? Unless the item is a fake - I would say - why not? Good for the hobby.

mike

baseballfanatic

I think press pins and pennants we put on another plataeu, just because of the numbers of them out there, which is why we can price alot of them. Phantom tickets have been on ebay (along with proofs) forever and rarely even garner bids sometimes. There are going to be TONS of bricks coming out of the woodwork for evey team that was in the race in September for the last 40 years, let alone proofs. Now the ones for auction were for an actual World Series that took place, so maybe it is for only teams that actually made it, but I think that really shouldnt matter

Stone193

bf
You aksed "is this good for the hobby?"

That's what I was answering - not whether they have high demand.

There's like 8 skabillion 1992 UD cards produced for any given player but they still have merit and are collectible - tho not worth much.

These are legitimate pieces of memorabilia - tho in large numbers - but there are probably people out there who collect the "phantoms" along with the actual gamers.

Just an opinion and I have nothing to back this up with other than my intuition.
thanx
mike

scooter729

If they really are grading phantom tickets, then this goes against their policy.

This is a direct quote from the Submission Center grading policy on tickets:

We will not grade high school tickets, audit or gate stubs, fan tickets issued after the event, Phantom Tickets where event never took place, or Ticket Master issued sporting event tickets.