Best QB in football?
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Who's the best QB in the NFL. Personally, I think I'll go with Manning despite his lack of playoff success. I think Favre's still great too, despite throwing a few too many INTs last year. Any thoughts? Any players who you feel are over-looked?
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If that's the case, then give me Brady, who I still feel is underrtated. So many people want to hang his success on the 'system', or his being in the right place at the right time, anything other than to give the man his due. But because he doesn't throw for 4000 yards and 30 TDs, people think he's not the best QB.
Fantasy football has skewered a lot of people's realities about what makes a great QB.
<< <i>Isn't the definition of a great QB winning games?
If that's the case, then give me Brady, who I still feel is underrtated. So many people want to hang his success on the 'system', or his being in the right place at the right time, anything other than to give the man his due. But because he doesn't throw for 4000 yards and 30 TDs, people think he's not the best QB.
Fantasy football has skewered a lot of people's realities about what makes a great QB. >>
The definition is different for everyone. Some people believe in 'clutch' performances; i.e., that certain players will perform above what one would typically expect if the game or situation is more important. Other people-- like myself- believe 'clutch' performances tend to be the product of small sample sizes.
In any case, I think arguing over who QB's is silly. Unlike with baseball players there are too many variables that can't be quantified. Who has better receivers? Who has an offensive coordinator that likes to throw the ball? Who has a coaching staff that's better prepared come game time? Who has the more dominant RB? Who has a defense that puts the offense on a short field? And so on and so on.
Arguing over QB's is, IMO, like arguing over what flavor potato chip is best. Sure, Peyton Manning is better than Joey Harrington. But once you're comparing QB's of similar talent legitimate arguments can be made for all of them.
<< <i>Who's the best QB in the NFL. Personally, I think I'll go with Manning despite his lack of playoff success. I think Favre's still great too, despite throwing a few too many INTs last year. Any thoughts? Any players who you feel are over-looked?
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Favre still great? Not in the games I saw him in last season...he was actually bordering on pathetic in my opinion. I think Favre is over-the-hill now and it's not even close.
Based on championships, age, and other qualities I think Brady is an easy call as the best quarterback, although certainly a good case could be made for Manning.
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Favre was great but he needs to hang 'em up. I think he is being extremely selfish by not giving an anwser about retirement this year.
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I'm a Steelers fan so naturally I lean to Roth, but I think that Steelers defense puts him in a lot of good situations to start with. Without that defense, he wouldn't have near the wins as he does. One credit to him though is that the Steelers were losing to bad teams when he was out and then went to dominating again when he came back.
I hate to say it, but I think it might be Manning. He's about the only QB that can move the ball at will when his teams needs a score. He drove down on the Steelers at the end of that Playoff game last year like he was playing against the Texans. The Steelers D couldn't stop him even when they knew they had to.
And trust me, it hurts to admit that.
I admit the steelers had a great run last year, kudos to them. At least give the pats their due
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I think Brady and Roethlishoweverinthehellyouspellit are 2 of the best with a nudge to Brady. Both have excellent supporting casts that take a lot of the weight off of their shoulders.
Not many QB's can win games throwing the ball as little as Ben.
<< <i>Wow, I think too much credit is being given to Brady by you guys. Patriots are a solid team with or without him. I think any number of QB's could win with that team. I think Bledsoe in his prime was better than Brady. >>
You're out of your mind. Plain and simple...typical Brady hater response 'anyone could win in that situation'. What do you say then about Manning having all world receivers and running backs, having the best team in the league, and still lost in the first round. The play of the team comes down directly to the play of the QB. No, not any number of QBs could win with that team.
<< <i>I'm a Steelers fan so naturally I lean to Roth, but I think that Steelers defense puts him in a lot of good situations to start with. Without that defense, he wouldn't have near the wins as he does. One credit to him though is that the Steelers were losing to bad teams when he was out and then went to dominating again when he came back.
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So the truth comes out. You're a steeler homer and can't stand that the Pats have won 3 super bowls. Get over it...Brady's the real deal, cool as ice under any and all situations, and has THREE SUPER BOWL RINGS.
<< <i>I hate to say it, but I think it might be Manning. He's about the only QB that can move the ball at will when his teams needs a score. He drove down on the Steelers at the end of that Playoff game last year like he was playing against the Texans. The Steelers D couldn't stop him even when they knew they had to. >>
Manning has the best stats, but then you can put any good armed QB in that system and put up those numbers, right? Hey it's the system, right?
edit: forgot to close a quote.
<< <i>Wow, I think too much credit is being given to Brady by you guys. Patriots are a solid team with or without him. I think any number of QB's could win with that team. I think Bledsoe in his prime was better than Brady. >>
Wabbit, you have had a few too many of these -
I am a Steelers fan also, but face facts - Brady is what makes that team special. As mentioned, Peyton Manning has had a great team around him for the past few years (and much more powerful offensive weapons in Edge and Harrison) and what has he won? Squat. Bledsoe better than Brady? Then why in the world did the Patriots put Bledsoe (in his prime, then) on a bus out of town so they could hand the offense over to Brady, who had played so well while Bledsoe was hurt?
I like Roethlisberger a lot also, but he's no Tom Brady.
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Of course I could be wrong ... this years best QB may turn out to be Jason Campbell
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If you had a football team to build, and had the opening at QB, and every QB were available, who would you choose?
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