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Has the recent bullion price surge affected the quality of this forum?

291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
My opinion: In the last two weeks the quality of this forum has declined sharply.

Has the recent price spike in bullion brought about changes that are negatively affecting the forum by bringing in a different kind of poster? Topics seem to be drifting away from numismatics.
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  • MrKelsoMrKelso Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭
    are the two not connected? most of what we collect are made from silver and gold so what is the problem if we talk about bullion for a bit?


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  • ERER Posts: 7,345
    I see no problem here.


  • << <i>My opinion: In the last two weeks the quality of this forum has declined sharply.

    Has the recent price spike in bullion brought about changes that are negatively affecting the forum by bringing in a different kind of poster? Topics seem to be drifting away from numismatics. >>



    You won't get too many quality replies with this one.

    The numismatics guys are out shopping for low grade coins as future investments. image

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  • << <i>are the two not connected? most of what we collect are made from silver and gold so what is the problem if we talk about bullion for a bit? >>




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    Numismatics , in fact collect "old and rare money" .
    This money is made of gold & silver . (not snubbing copper)
    Bullion prices directly reflect base price on the most common coins ,
    which will reflect down the road on alot of classics that are collected .

    I for one am interested in "bullion prices" as it reflects on my buying power .



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  • INXSINXS Posts: 1,202


    << <i>are the two not connected? most of what we collect are made from silver and gold so what is the problem if we talk about bullion for a bit? >>



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  • RedTigerRedTiger Posts: 5,608
    It is only a very small handful of people, so it is not that hard to ignore, annoying as it is. Intelligent discussion, thoughtful analysis, new buys (or sells) are all worth posting. Spamming the forum every half hour with a current quote on a new topic is annoying and in my opinion, childish. Those that care about the price certainly know where to find it. Once a day after the close is more than enough. Better is once a week, or when a significant price level is reached on the upside or downside is plenty. Again, if someone is buying or selling that is worth reporting. Crowing about a 10 cent move in the last hour without any thoughtful comments or analysis is self-indulgent and of little interest to the average collector.
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭


    << <i>It is only a very small handful of people, so it is not that hard to ignore, annoying as it is. Intelligent discussion, thoughtful analysis, new buys (or sells) are all worth posting. Spamming the forum every half hour with a current quote on a new topic is annoying and in my opinion, childish. Those that care about the price certainly know where to find it. Once a day after the close is more than enough. Better is once a week, or when a significant price level is reached on the upside or downside is plenty. Again, if someone is buying or selling that is worth reporting. Crowing about a 10 cent move in the last hour without any thoughtful comments or analysis is self-indulgent and of little interest to the average collector. >>



    amen to that!!!
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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    I enjoy the discussion about bullion, since historically there is some correlation between bullion prices and the coin market overall. I just wish we didn't have 32 threads a day about it.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,336 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think a full moon has more of an effect than the price of bullion.



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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    I see it as a posting flavor of the week.
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  • Silver and gold, silver and gold,
    Ev'ryone wishes for silver and gold.
    How do you measure its worth?
    Just by the pleasure it gives here on earth.
    Silver and gold, silver and gold
    Means so much more when I see,
    Silver and gold decorations
    On ev'ry Christmas tree.
    (spoken)What's a Christmas tree without tinsel and pretty silver and gold decorations?
    Can't really call it a Christmas tree now, can you?
    And think of all the fun and joy that would be lost on Christmas morning
    if all the young folks didn't get to see that sparkling happy tree.
    Silver and gold, silver and gold
    Means so much more when I see,
    Silver and gold decorations
    On ev'ry Christmas tree.

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I prefer copper coins - is copper over $3 yet?? image
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  • DeadhorseDeadhorse Posts: 3,720


    << <i>I think a full moon has more of an effect than the price of bullion. >>



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    That's the best laugh I've had all day, and it's been a long day.

    Really, one thread a day is plenty. It is related to numismatics and I'm a collector as well. Been a collector for longer than I'd like to admit sometimes. I used to find Indian Head cents in the parking meter bags from the bank. So that should give you an idea how long I've been into this hobby/obsession.

    I know the damn spot price and I know where Kitco is.
    "Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."
    John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
  • Rob9874Rob9874 Posts: 318 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Silver and gold, silver and gold,
    Ev'ryone wishes for silver and gold.
    How do you measure its worth?
    Just by the pleasure it gives here on earth.
    Silver and gold, silver and gold
    Means so much more when I see,
    Silver and gold decorations
    On ev'ry Christmas tree.
    (spoken)What's a Christmas tree without tinsel and pretty silver and gold decorations?
    Can't really call it a Christmas tree now, can you?
    And think of all the fun and joy that would be lost on Christmas morning
    if all the young folks didn't get to see that sparkling happy tree.
    Silver and gold, silver and gold
    Means so much more when I see,
    Silver and gold decorations
    On ev'ry Christmas tree. >>



    Well, just hearing Burl Ives in my head made me feel better.
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    Crowing about a 10 cent move in the last hour without any thoughtful comments or analysis is self-indulgent and of little interest to the average collector.

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  • DeadhorseDeadhorse Posts: 3,720


    << <i>Well, just hearing Burl Ives in my head made me feel better. >>



    Hey Rob, I've sent you two answers to your PM and neither shows up in my history.

    What's up with that? Did you turn off PMs by mistake?

    Ah! Now I see, turn on your PMs, I can't respond till you do and I've wasted several keystrokes.

    Never got a PM from someone who had theirs turned off before. image
    "Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."
    John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
  • ccexccex Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭
    291fifth postulated that the quality of posts on the U.S. Coins forum is inversely proportional to bullion prices. I've had fun here nonetheless. I postulate that spring has sprong and others, like me, are feeling sillier and less studious about the technical details of our coins than we were a month or three ago, when we were snowbound at home with nothing better to do than look at our old coins. I sold off a bunch of debris on eBay and haven't had to work ridiculous hours the last few weeks.

    (OK, this isn't a quality post either. But with a thread topic like this, who would post something like a rarity analysis of Barber Dime varieties and errors?)
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  • HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭

    since when is this board about numismatics ?
    numismatics are completely ancillary to the endless posts about

    1) DEALERS (scores, rips, etc)
    2) Ebay
    3a) laura bashing
    3b) modern bashing
    4) precious metal trends
    5) picture threads !

    This forum says:
    Talk about all types of U.S. coins with other collectors, dealers, and experts.

    Personally I find myself scanning these boards less and less, there are odd threads here and there which are VERY EDUCATIONAL, but seem few and far inbetween.


    ON THE other hand, with so many people posting, so many different topics and points of view.. there has to be something which you might like to read.

    be happy they're accurately posting thier subject lines so you know what to avoid....
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    The "quality" of the posts ebbs and flows (I am not sure if anyone can really come up with a consistent definition of quality-- some people might love bullion discussions, others might like moderns discussions, and still others might like Ebay posts, etc.). I tend to read what interests me and pass over the ones that don't interest me.

    I've been posting less lately, but it does not have anything to do with the quality of the other posts.
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  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    I've been posting less lately, but it does not have anything to do with the quality of the other posts.

    Same here. Bullion doesn't interest me, so I just skip those posts. This is a hobby forum for me, not an investment forum.

    Why less posting? Perhaps it's weather-related. Spring is here, it's getting nicer outside, and there's more daylight. I'm back into bicycling, working around the house, getting the garden started, etc. as time permits. That all takes time away from here.
  • MrBreezeMrBreeze Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭
    In my opinion, the posts about metal PRICES updates should not be here. Discussion about the long term trend or how this affects numismatics is a worthwhile tangent to the coin market. Now, looking at this post on the macro level, a lot of the issues related to the dissatisfaction with all the new posters here are somewhat related to the well-established relationships and history between older members. You have personal relationships which have a great deal of inside jokes and personal anecdotes that new members can't possibly relate to, or comment on. In addition, the "old school" guys have established the morays of this sight. There is a support for old members that is not always there for new members. There are a few examples where I have seen a new member post something that is essentially repeated a week later by an old school member. The old school member gets 80 posts about what a good thread it was, and how the quality of discussion on the thread was very informative and useful. The new member who posted it a week ago got one or two responses and the thread was pretty much dead. Sometimes, some of you don't realize how easy it is for you guys to communicate with each other. As for me, I am trying to contribute as much as I can. I often test the boundaries to see what is viewed as "acceptable" or "worthwhile." It gives me a better understanding of what the forum is all about, and whether I want to participate, or not. I am going to upset everybody at least once, so be prepared for your turn. And, don't write me off if I have already upset you. I don't think I could come here and not push a little bit.
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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,701 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>In my opinion, the posts about metal PRICES updates should not be here. Discussion about the long term trend or how this affects numismatics is a worthwhile tangent to the coin market. Now, looking at this post on the macro level, a lot of the issues related to the dissatisfaction with all the new posters here are somewhat related to the well-established relationships and history between older members. You have personal relationships which have a great deal of inside jokes and personal anecdotes that new members can't possibly relate to, or comment on. In addition, the "old school" guys have established the morays of this sight. There is a support for old members that is not always there for new members. There are a few examples where I have seen a new member post something that is essentially repeated a week later by an old school member. The old school member gets 80 posts about what a good thread it was, and how the quality of discussion on the thread was very informative and useful. The new member who posted it a week ago got one or two responses and the thread was pretty much dead. Sometimes, some of you don't realize how easy it is for you guys to communicate with each other. As for me, I am trying to contribute as much as I can. I often test the boundaries to see what is viewed as "acceptable" or "worthwhile." It gives me a better understanding of what the forum is all about, and whether I want to participate, or not. I am going to upset everybody at least once, so be prepared for your turn. And, don't write me off if I have already upset you. I don't think I could come here and not push a little bit. >>




    Hmmmm. A little reformatting and I could get a whole thread out of this post. image

    It's natural for a new guy to take time bust into an established group but most of
    us here are going to notice good posts whether it's a new member or and old one.

    I try to avoid the inside jokes and codes so that newer members or lurkers can
    follow the discussion. Obviously, we don't all do that.
    Tempus fugit.

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