Im thinking both will be worth more, However, if A-rod continues to put up the numbers he does we are talkin elite status. But, you never know what may happen. Is one card more difficult to obtain in high grade than the other??
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AROD is one of the greatest baseball players of all time. Derek Jeter is one of the most overrated baseball players of all time. When these two facts become even clearer in the future, there will be a greater separation in price between their rookie cards.
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Probably ARod. A lot of people don't like him, but if you really take a step back, he really hasn't been a bad guy or gotten into any trouble like a lot bad apples out there. His problem is that he still hasn't found a winning team that has gone all the way yet and people resent his pricetag. Not being able to come through last year in the playoffs didn't help either. Years from now, it'll be hard to ignore all the stats he's piling up.
Gotta go with AROD. He may turn into a 'Barry Bonds' when it comes to the media in a few years, but he'll put up some #'s nobody will soon forget. He's a natural talent. I agree that Jeter is a little overrated... although a great player. If his career was with any other team but the Yankees, he'd be more like a Garciaparra.
It all depends in whether or not the Yankees win a championship or two with Arod. The market around both of their cards depend on Yankee fans ( argue that all you want, but as with any other year or issue, Yankees always command more interest and higher value). If Arod can win in NY he will be given more praise in NY( not saying that is right to do so) thus making his stand out value wise in the long run. If he doesnt, right or wrong, stats aside, Jeters will be worth more.
Just a note to the person who compared Jeter to Garciaparra. Get a clue.....perfect example was the game where Jeter dove into the stands against the Red Sox. The game was so intense and meant so much, and like every other day Jeter did the little things, including cheering on his teammates and doing everything a team captain should. Where was Garciaparra during that intense game between two heated rivals ? He was hiding and sulking in the bottom of the dugout, something you will NEVER see Jeter do, and something people who dont get to see Jeter every day will just never understand.
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Probably Arod, although the great sleeper as far as 90's RC's go is the 1995 Bowman's Best Andruw Jones Refractor. Look at his numbers and his age-- he has a good a chance of hitting 755 as anyone out there.
Jeter is in the hearts of every Yankee fan. Arod's not there yet. Yes, he has better stats and will put up incredible numbers when it is all said and done, but Jeter is revered as a Yankee great already, like Mattingly, Mantle and Dimaggio. Jeter is the face of the Yankees right now.
Next MONTH? So he's saying that if he wins, the best-case scenario is that he'll be paying for it two weeks after the auction ends?
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I agree with the A. Jones. That guy is consistent, and forget his offensive production.....his glove is the best in the game over the last 7-8 years.
I would go with AROD too here. Unlike Bonds, though, the press adores the guy. It is the Yankee haters and multimillion dollar contract haters that have bad stuff to say about him. That being said, he needs to get at least ONE title, or the media will start saying how he 'can't win the big one'
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<< <i>Probably Arod, although the great sleeper as far as 90's RC's go is the 1995 Bowman's Best Andruw Jones Refractor. Look at his numbers and his age-- he has a good a chance of hitting 755 as anyone out there. >>
Not a chance. He'd have to average 30 HR a year until he's 43. You REALLY think that's going to happen? Or 41 HR a year until he's 39?
<< <i>Probably Arod, although the great sleeper as far as 90's RC's go is the 1995 Bowman's Best Andruw Jones Refractor. Look at his numbers and his age-- he has a good a chance of hitting 755 as anyone out there. >>
Not a chance. He'd have to average 30 HR a year until he's 43. You REALLY think that's going to happen? Or 41 HR a year until he's 39?
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He's two years younger than A-Rod and 120 some odd home runs behind him. So yes, I guess A-Rod does have a better shot. But Andruw Jones is still in the running. He's also entering his 30's, which are typically good years for power hitters.
<< <i>AROD is one of the greatest baseball players of all time. Derek Jeter is one of the most overrated baseball players of all time. . >>
I know I know , I am a Yankee fan. BUT, am I the only one here who laughed my a$$ off reading the above comment? I mean holy crap! Barring career threatening injury Derek Jeter will with out a doubt eclipse 3,000 hits in his career. And when that happens I will be more then happy to dig up this thread and ask how it was possible that the most "over-rated" player in the history of the game finished with more than 3,000 base hits and oodles and oodles of runs scored.
Ummm, doyou realize that Jeter is a eye blink away from 2,000 hits ALREADY at the age of 31? Has almost 1,200 runs scored? 300 + doubles? AND a career .309 batting average?
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I'd be curious to see the answers if the question was: '84 Clemens, '93 Jeter, or '94 A-Rod.
I think all the talk about Jeter being overrated actually makes him underrated. There is no denying that his being a Yankee also gives him a boost as well, but that is the same boost that the Yankees from the '50s get as well.
A-Rod will put up better numbers, but I don't see his cards moving that far ahead of Jeter. Derek would help his cause by winning an MVP one of these years. He is due to have a monster offensive season one of these years.
I am NOT a Yankee fan, and would even go so far as to call myself a Yankee "hater" but even I have to disagree with Derek Jeter being overrated. On top of his stats, the man simply has an unequalled "feel" for the game and goes at it 100%.
Two plays will forever define Jeter. First, the headlong dive into the stands for the foul ball. A-Rod would never have made that play for fear of scarring his pretty face. Endorsements, you know. The second was in the playoffs against the A's when he somehow found himself backing up a throw from the outfield and when it sailed over the first baseman's head, there was Jeter to shovel the ball to Posada and tag out Jeremy Giambi (SLIDE, JEREMY, SLIDE!).
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Just a note to the person who compared Jeter to Garciaparra. Get a clue.....perfect example was the game where Jeter dove into the stands against the Red Sox. The game was so intense and meant so much, and like every other day Jeter did the little things, including cheering on his teammates and doing everything a team captain should. Where was Garciaparra during that intense game between two heated rivals ? He was hiding and sulking in the bottom of the dugout, something you will NEVER see Jeter do, and something people who dont get to see Jeter every day will just never understand.
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Jeter is in the hearts of every Yankee fan. Arod's not there yet. Yes, he has better stats and will put up incredible numbers when it is all said and done, but Jeter is revered as a Yankee great already, like Mattingly, Mantle and Dimaggio. Jeter is the face of the Yankees right now.
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I would go with AROD too here. Unlike Bonds, though, the press adores the guy. It is the Yankee haters and multimillion dollar contract haters that have bad stuff to say about him. That being said, he needs to get at least ONE title, or the media will start saying how he 'can't win the big one'
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<< <i>Probably Arod, although the great sleeper as far as 90's RC's go is the 1995 Bowman's Best Andruw Jones Refractor. Look at his numbers and his age-- he has a good a chance of hitting 755 as anyone out there. >>
Not a chance. He'd have to average 30 HR a year until he's 43. You REALLY think that's going to happen? Or 41 HR a year until he's 39?
Tabe
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<< <i>Probably Arod, although the great sleeper as far as 90's RC's go is the 1995 Bowman's Best Andruw Jones Refractor. Look at his numbers and his age-- he has a good a chance of hitting 755 as anyone out there. >>
Not a chance. He'd have to average 30 HR a year until he's 43. You REALLY think that's going to happen? Or 41 HR a year until he's 39?
Tabe >>
He's two years younger than A-Rod and 120 some odd home runs behind him. So yes, I guess A-Rod does have a better shot. But Andruw Jones is still in the running. He's also entering his 30's, which are typically good years for power hitters.
<< <i>AROD is one of the greatest baseball players of all time. Derek Jeter is one of the most overrated baseball players of all time. . >>
I know I know , I am a Yankee fan. BUT, am I the only one here who laughed my a$$ off reading the above comment? I mean holy crap! Barring career threatening injury Derek Jeter will with out a doubt eclipse 3,000 hits in his career. And when that happens I will be more then happy to dig up this thread and ask how it was possible that the most "over-rated" player in the history of the game finished with more than 3,000 base hits and oodles and oodles of runs scored.
Ummm, doyou realize that Jeter is a eye blink away from 2,000 hits ALREADY at the age of 31? Has almost 1,200 runs scored? 300 + doubles? AND a career .309 batting average?
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I think all the talk about Jeter being overrated actually makes him underrated. There is no denying that his being a Yankee also gives him a boost as well, but that is the same boost that the Yankees from the '50s get as well.
A-Rod will put up better numbers, but I don't see his cards moving that far ahead of Jeter. Derek would help his cause by winning an MVP one of these years. He is due to have a monster offensive season one of these years.
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Two plays will forever define Jeter. First, the headlong dive into the stands for the foul ball. A-Rod would never have made that play for fear of scarring his pretty face. Endorsements, you know. The second was in the playoffs against the A's when he somehow found himself backing up a throw from the outfield and when it sailed over the first baseman's head, there was Jeter to shovel the ball to Posada and tag out Jeremy Giambi (SLIDE, JEREMY, SLIDE!).
For A's fans Kirk Gibson will always be Public Enemy #1 but Jeter is a close #2.