Do the doctors ever take dipped out coins and use techniques to make coins look original?

Longacre

Whenever I see a gold coin online or somwhere will some dirt in the crevices, I think to myself that it is an original coin. If original gold coins ever come back into favor (as opposed to the dipped out messes that are out there everywhere), is it possible for a coin doctor to make a dipped coin look original? Would this be as easy as putting a little dirt on the coin and tone down the brightness? Can the coins be buried in dirt for a little while? How easy would it be to spot something like this, or is this an acceptable form of doctoring because it is getting the coin back to its natural state?

SUPERCARCOINS

............a doctor i know "strips" the coins surface before applying his artificial tone

RYK

"...or is this an acceptable form of doctoring because it is getting the coin back to its natural state?"

No, it is not acceptable. Two wrongs don't make a right.

OHC6

But 3 lefts do.

Myqqy

I have the feeling that there will always be knuckleheads who think that "shiny new" is the best no matter what, and other knuckleheads will gladly strip away historical pieces for capitalistic gain- that's one perpetual problem with united states culture, in that it always breeds folks who value money over any and all ideals....
And I agree with RYK that two wrongs don't make a right......

PerryHall

How can you add dirt to a coin without creating additional new hairlines? Don't you have to rub the dirt into the surfaces to make it look natural? Definitely a bad idea.

UncleWiggly

There was a thread with some comments about this some time ago but can't find it. The comments were about using cigerette smoke.



Jerry

Coindexter

Myqqy, I agree largely except for this point:

Greed is not an invention of the culture of our country. It is simply a symptom of the human condition.

Deadhorse

Well, I know how to take a blatent AT coin and dip off the colors and then give it back it's original look and patina.

It's not difficult and doesn't cause any wear either.

It does involve human sweat, but an acetone bath afterward makes it quite sanitary in the end.

I'm sure it would work with a gold coin as well, I just haven't tried it yet.

fc

i do not think longacre is concerned with "silver type toning".

he is wondering if people take a shiny dipped out gold coin,
and can make it orange, with grease/dirt/residue in the cracks.

coins like that with remaining luster often fetch more then their
dipped out cousins.

one could take wood stain and a super soft cloth to get
"residue in the cracks". black grease lightly applied would do
it also, then dry to remove moisture.

but the orange appearance.. or copper toned looking.. i wonder
how it may be done..

edited to add: some have said placing a gold coin in a leather bag,
will result in a change of color over time.

JadeRareCoin

Some of the more seasoned coin doctors (and there are only a few) know how to remove toning from one coin and apply it to another. This is a true statement. Scary, huh?