Crack BGS and sub to PSA, any recent cross-over experience?

digicat

Besides any "trimmed" and "sheet cut" issues, what sort of track record have you guys seen with cracking cards out of BGS cases and sending them in to PSA? Bumps? Drops?

Are the BGS subgrades of any use in determining crossover potential?

lawnmowerman

digicat, Here are some results from my sub a month or so ago. Not pictured were two 92 Bowman cards, Piazza and Manny Ramirez. Both of them had 9.5's & 9's as the subs and also crossed to PSA 10's. The cards all bumped up with the exception of two that graded the same grade of 9. The 1990 Leaf Jr. also was a bgs 9 but I lost the flip.



<< <i>Are the BGS subgrades of any use in determining crossover potential? >>

Yes The higher the better. Also I look for older BGS slabs where the subs are on the back of the flip. Their standards were higher back then. All of these cards I sent to bgs between a year and a half and two years ago. The Faulk was an ebay purchase

envoy98

EGADS Matt!

Nice job! You make me want to start buying up old BGS 9 cards and submitting them to PSA. Very nice job!

lawnmowerman

Thanks Josh. With the exception of the Faulk card everything else was cards I submitted to bgs from my own collection. The cards were much better then the bgs grade given to them.
If you are going to buy bgs for crossover,make sure they are the old flips with the subs on the reverse. BGS standards were so strict in the beginning and as of a few years ago. Now they are terrible. I wouldnt buy any bgs card for crossover with the newer flips.

digicat

You're recomending against the new flips pretty strongly, but 6 of the 8 cards you show above have the new flip. ???

lawnmowerman

<< <i>You're recomending against the new flips pretty strongly, but 6 of the 8 cards you show above have the new flip. ??? >>

Actually 7 of the 8 are the newer flips!!! Like I said before these cards were sent in appr 2 years ago when bgs still was gading more strictly then they are now.In the last year bgs has gone down tremendously in grading quality. They were cards from my own collection and I already knew their condition and that they would grade higher in psa. My exact words were

<< <i> I wouldnt buy any bgs card for crossover with the newer flips. >>

Buy... being the operative word here. Since I already had them in hand I was taking zero risk at buying a new flip.
I dont know about you but all of my graded card purchases come from ebay, where I dont physically hold the card in my hand. Therefore, the point I am trying to convey here is that it would be a risk buying any bgs card in the newer flip. I suppose you could get the bgs number and find out when it was graded but sometimes the number is not visable or listed on the sellers auctions.