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OneyOney Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭✭
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I would like your grade thoughts on this potential purchase......thanx!

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Brian

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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,996 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm inclined to say MS63 due to the severity of the hits on the chin (are they as deep as they look?)

    That said, PCGS seems to grade CCs a point higher than I do a lot of the time.
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  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,708 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pics are hard to judge, but Ill say Ms-63. I cant really determine how severe the obvers hits are with that photo??

  • TWODOGSTWODOGS Posts: 1,419
    I'm always wrong when I try to grade by pics, so I'll keep my opinion to myself. Sure is purty, though.
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  • 777777 Posts: 1,056
    She's a nice 64, the hits are light image
  • coynclectercoynclecter Posts: 2,111
    I'd say a solid 64 .

    10 years ago it was more like a 63



    If those chin hits are just surface abrasions and the check is just a rub it could make 65 on a good day, i've seen worse in a 65 holder.
  • wam98wam98 Posts: 2,685 ✭
    I'm with the 64 crowd. Nice 78 CC. image
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  • mepotmepot Posts: 585 ✭✭✭
    I'm thinking that is rub on a cameo contrast.If so,i'll call it 64 cam.


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  • OneyOney Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭✭
    Anyone else? Have not bought it yet but getting a better idea based on other opinions....
    Brian
  • ERER Posts: 7,345 ✭
    64
  • ERER Posts: 7,345 ✭


    << <i>I'm thinking that is rub on a cameo contrast.If so,i'll call it 64 cam. >>


    It's not proof.
  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977 ✭
    64
  • DeadhorseDeadhorse Posts: 3,720 ✭
    Are those all hits or are some of them frostbreaks?

    Wish the pic was bigger.

    OK, I enlarged it a bit and then sharpened it, still can't tell for certain.

    I'd go between 63 to 65, certainly no lower than MS63 and it could well be better.
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  • morgannut2morgannut2 Posts: 4,293 ✭
    Put it this way--without the two distracting marks on the chin and potential dig in the obv. field, it would be shot 65. It totally depends how annoying these 3 areas are when the coin is seen live. That decides 63 or 64--image
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  • CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139 ✭
    MS64, but low-end, not worth a premium IMO.
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  • OneyOney Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks everyone............if I told you this was in SGS holder would that matter if the money is right?
    Brian
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,996 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Under $300 would be right.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • Coinhusker1Coinhusker1 Posts: 3,560 ✭
    PCGS 64

    SGS 67+!!

  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977 ✭


    << <i>Thanks everyone............if I told you this was in SGS holder would that matter if the money is right? >>

    Then I would be suspect and would want to make sure it was not tooled, cleaned, thumbed, or otherwise messed with before I bought it. All of which could be easily hidden in the image.
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,047 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm going to say 63. The scuffs aren't too deep, but there are more than I'd like to see on a 64. If it's in an SGS holder, then I'd be wary of problems, but I really don't see any based on the picture.
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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I'm thinking that is rub on a cameo contrast.If so,i'll call it 64 cam. >>


    It's not proof. >>



    Neither is this one.
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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,494 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would say 64 and it looks to me like most of the marks on the portrant are frost breaks not heavy hits. It that is so she could go 65 on the right day.

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  • JSssonJSsson Posts: 891 ✭
    I think that coin is a great example of an uncirculated example of the date and mint. I would say MS63 or MS64, and the reverse of the coin looks exceptionally nice.
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
    I like the look of that one- it looks like a probable 64, and very frosty!
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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What do you grade the coin Oney?
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,996 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That '85-CC appears to be a VAM 4. image
    When in doubt, don't.
  • OneyOney Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭✭
    I grade the coin 64 if the chin hits were not overbearing. The coin went for $360 on ebay. Too much for SGS in my mind. They had it graded at MS65. No surprise there.
    Brian
  • ERER Posts: 7,345 ✭


    << <i>I grade the coin 64 if the chin hits were not overbearing. The coin went for $360 on ebay. Too much for SGS in my mind. They had it graded at MS65. No surprise there. >>


    I always thought SGS=70. Man, they've toughened their standards.

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