Does this look 64?

marmac

this seems to me to be overgraded two points if not three points off...1903-s NGC64

TorinoCobra71

Pics are WAY overexposed, hard to tell...2-3 points under or over?



TorinoCobra71

roadrunner

It seems to be no worse than an MS63 to me and even the 64 grade doesn't seem absurd.

roadrunner

ziggy29

I wouldn't use a Heritage picture as the basis for forming an opinion about the grade. I'd be very surprised if a condition rarity like 1903-S would be significantly overgraded, though. Usually that only happens to the common stuff, and condition rarities are often (if not usually) considerably undergraded.

[Edit to add: This coin, despite my admonitions about using Heritage pics to assess the coin, looks clearly better than 62 to me. If you held a gun to my head and told me to grade it anyway, IMO 64 is about right.]

DennisH

Looks very 64ish to me.

marmac

the scratch running from the neck well into the cheek would seem to me to limit it to a 62. Perhaps as is well noted witht he Heritage pictures of late, I shouldn't be trying to grade from a picture. Maybe the scratch is not as severe as it looks in the pic....perhaps I am just getting fussier and want my 64's to have a clean cheek

MadMarty

<< <i> I hate to bash the guys across the street but... >>



Then don't until you have seen the coin in hand! You're title leads me to think that PCGS NEVER has overgraded a coin!

ksteelheader

<< <i>I hate to bash the guys across the street but... >>




Then why do you???

marmac

Well I guess my title is in appropriate. I must not have enough coffee in me yet this morning...
Then don't until you have seen the coin in hand! You're title leads me to think that PCGS NEVER has overgraded a coin!

Only the ones in my collection when time to sell

IrishMike

Coin looks fine as a 64, in fact if not for the hit on the obverse would most likely grade higher.

Shamika

The reverse looks 66. However, the long scratch (?) across Miss Liberty is pretty serious. This is a tough coin to grade.

EJB

...........From the pics I'd say 64 would not be a problem................

SamByrd

hmm... In my opinion it would not slab with pcgs due to the large scratch, it will certainly be hard to sell for ms64 dollars even though it is otherwise nice and a rare coin

JJM

thats a tough one....its a 63.75 for sure !

bhartman35

63, at best.
There's the long gash in Liberty's neck,
Several scratches on her cheek and neck,
Some trouble with the fields at 9 and 10 oclock.

On the reverse, there's a hit on the eagle's right leg, and the N in "UNITED", the second "A" in "AMERICA" and the star between "AMERICA" and "DOLLAR" have sustained hits.

It might seem like I'm being too picky, but when a company tries to hide a coin's inperfections, they should count for more.

777

<<There's the long gash..>> This gash should have limited the coins grade to ms60, even with the nice clean surfaces..

Coxe

Looks fine except for that one long scratch. Most of the other disturbances appear to me as toning. It is borderline, but MS64 is fair enough. It's a coin I would bid and buy only if I could examine it personally though. Excellent date to find above choice.

maddogale

it's a 4.............just barely...