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WHOAH! Economy just jumped to 60 days!

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  • DickyBetzDickyBetz Posts: 3,825
    WTF? They need to hire more graders! I want my coins!!!!
  • clackamasclackamas Posts: 5,615 ✭
    Now they won't tell you what stage the coins are in either. Its going downhill.
  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    The realistic Economy turnaround time has been around 60 days for some time now.
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  • TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,054 ✭✭✭
    Wasnt someone just saying a month or two ago that economy should never go over 40-45 days? so much for re-commitment......image

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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The Economy turnaround has actually been around 60 days for some time now. >>



    Yeah, about 10 minutes.

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  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Darn I was counting on the middle of next month for my submission. Looks like May now.

    WTCG it said 45 days a week ago. Do they fib to us ?

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  • MikeJessie1MikeJessie1 Posts: 374
    I've got a presidential review in on march 1st. still no grade or review.
    How much for that one
  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The Economy turnaround has actually been around 60 days for some time now. >>



    Yeah, about 10 minutes.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    The posted turnaround times are only an estimate. What's important is the amount of time that Economy submissions are actually taking to be finished.
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  • DickyBetzDickyBetz Posts: 3,825
    Is that 60 business days or 60 real, human days?
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The posted turnaround times are only an estimate. >>



    Really?

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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    Everyone got wise and is paying for the 15 day service which bumps economy out until there is a nice buffer on the 15 day loads. My last 15 day service took 40 days. image
  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The posted turnaround times are only an estimate. >>



    Really?

    Russ, NCNE >>



    It's a reminder for those people who take the posted PCGS estimates as gospel.
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It's a reminder for those people who take the PCGS estimate as gospel on turnaround times. >>



    Yeah, there area lot of those around here. image

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  • Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,657 ✭✭✭
    And I just mailing tomorrow and have 2 already in image
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  • gamr0ngamr0n Posts: 608


    << <i>Is that 60 business days or 60 real, human days? >>



    I would assume business days, considering that the PCGS graders are unhuman.
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  • BobaFett72BobaFett72 Posts: 7,304


    << <i>My last 15 day service took 40 days. >>



    I guess you dont get what you pay for LOL
    What a Ripoff.
  • LincolnCentManLincolnCentMan Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭
    It wouldnt be so bad if they would wait to charge your credit card when the services are rendered.

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  • BubbleheadBubblehead Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭
    image

    My last economy, logged on 2/2, was just posted this afternoon!

    I don't know what you guys are complaining about?image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>My last economy, logged on 2/2, was just posted this afternoon! >>



    That can't be, since that's only 50 days. According to Laura Lite™, they've been taking 60 days for some time now.

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  • eagle7eagle7 Posts: 1,441
    Ive still got one not finished logged in on 1/9. May be 90 days actual time before I even get grades. Who knows. I know it is taking too long. At this rate, I might be dead or incompetent by the time the grades are in.
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  • BurksBurks Posts: 1,103 ✭
    Well if they said 30 days and it takes 60 days that seems way too long.

    But if they say 60 days and it takes 75....well that isn't so bad right? You only waited an extra 15 instead of 30 (is what they are thinking).
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  • poorguypoorguy Posts: 4,317 ✭
    Get ready to have the bulk of your crossover order returned in the same holder w/no explaination.
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  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    Russ,

    I have an Economy submission entered on 1/17/06 which isn't completed yet, so quit complaining.
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Russ,

    I have an Economy submission entered on 1/17/06 which isn't completed yet, so quit complaining. >>



    High falutin' dealer dude like you submits economy?

    Russ, NCNE
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  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Russ,

    I have an Economy submission entered on 1/17/06 which isn't completed yet, so quit complaining. >>



    High falutin' dealer dude like you submits economy?

    Russ, NCNE >>



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  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
    I know it is taking too long. At this rate, I might be dead or incompetent by the time the grades are in.

    Maybe that's part of their grading plan- they know most of you are getting up there in age..... image
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  • bushmaster8bushmaster8 Posts: 5,616 ✭
    Mine logged in 1/23, was hoping to get grades next week.

    Time to raise grading fees again, to weed out those amatuer modern crap submissions.

    But seriously, in this market, the longer TAT means your coins will be worth that much more when you finally do get them back.

    Soon a BB'd Roosie will be more valuable than the grading fee! image
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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If everybody stopped sending in those darned moderns then economy would probably only be 2 days.imageimage
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Time to raise grading fees again, to weed out those amatuer modern crap submissions. >>



    Theoretically, we should have seen some improvement in processing times when the minimums for economy and modern went from five coins to 10 coins. Instead, the opposite happened.

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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,996 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I dropped off 3 Economy batches in person that went live in the system 1/24/06. I dropped off another Economy batch that went live 2/01/06. Some were raw coins; some were crossovers. All were Morgans.

    One of the 1/24 batches posted grades March 8.
    The 2/01 batch posted grades March 23.
    Still no word on the other two 1/24 batches.

    If anyone can make sense of this keen workflow strategy, please enlighten me. image
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  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,232 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder if they lost a grader or two to the competition?

    Are they still doing the gaurentee on the 15 day service where by you get free grading certificates if they are tardy?
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    I wonder if the experts from the pre 1930's end up grading moder coins also? It seems there are quite a few qualified modern graders out there, they should be hired and let the experts on older coins do their thing.

    I am not saying that modern is easier, just that there are more modern collectors/graders available.
  • twodrhrdtptwodrhrdtp Posts: 1,025
    Still waiting on my Franklin crossover from NOVEMBER 8th. Its in the system somewhere.
  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162 ✭


    << <i>Still waiting on my Franklin crossover from NOVEMBER 8th >>


    image Can there really be any good excuse for these long delays? Not in my mind. PCGS has a very poor business model. If we ran our business like they do, we'd be out of business in a week. I'm in the Retail Business so I know how important Customer Service is. But, as long as we keep feeding the monster, it will eat. To those of you who will say: Take your business elsewhere then". That's my plan when my CC Membership ends in Sept. There are nice coins in NGC and ANACS holders. They cost less, sell for less, but your gain equals out in the end if you buy the PQ coins. I've got three coins in under the Grade Guarantee. Might be six months till I hear any response. Just not acceptable to me. All this is just my opinion. Some may not like it, that's ok. But, it is my opinion and I stand by it. I'll end my rant with a nice PCGS graded coin:

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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Still waiting on my Franklin crossover from NOVEMBER 8th. Its in the system somewhere. >>



    You should really call in everyday and bug them on this, there has got to be something wrong with this order. I had one take two months and I called just to find out there was a finance hold because my calculations were $20 less than thiers.
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    If they get them done in 60 days business days then there is nothing wrong with the service as this is quoted on their web site. If it takes longer then complain and they will usually accomodate by bumping it ahead. There are a few that get stuck for a long time but it usually only takes a few calls to get it back on track.
  • morgannut2morgannut2 Posts: 4,293 ✭
    If their stock price goes down again--will they wake up??image
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  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    Just put together a modern and an economy for Monday. Might as well do my part to clog the pipe. image
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  • Coinhusker1Coinhusker1 Posts: 3,560 ✭


    << <i>I dropped off 3 Economy batches in person that went live in the system 1/24/06. I dropped off another Economy batch that went live 2/01/06. Some were raw coins; some were crossovers. All were Morgans.

    One of the 1/24 batches posted grades March 8.
    The 2/01 batch posted grades March 23.
    Still no word on the other two 1/24 batches.

    If anyone can make sense of this keen workflow strategy, please enlighten me. image >>



    It is definititely not FIFO, as you would expect.

    On Marty's submission page, some modern submissions posted in about 20 days, while others are at 45+!!

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