FB Variety recognition
Fuzz
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The title should really probably add the phrase "lack of ...".
While scanning through the registry for FB, really only the 48 leaf color variations and the 57 Sherman no name are the only recognized varieties. I believe some of the 69 checklists and maybe a Namath RC butterfly are noted but not yet in the registry. Other than that, I belive there is squat. When I look done the BB lists, almost every major set has a basic and a master set. This appears to be a discrepancy.
Now I know that FB had shorter print runs done over a smaller time frame and just don't have the same number of small corrected errors and variations, but the ones that are there are not attributed. I understand that doing this at this time would cost PSA money with the reholdering of potentially a lot of cards. I don't expect them to do it unless we as a group can show them that it would be good for business. The 60's varieties that I know For sure that I would collect Master sets of would be, 63 Fleer back stripe/ no stripe, 63 Topps background color, and (God ... please don't let Couldabeena read this) but 63 Stancraft different backs.
I know that I am missing other variations in other sets, so which other variations do you/ would you collect if attributed and would you collect any of these master sets?
Fuzz
While scanning through the registry for FB, really only the 48 leaf color variations and the 57 Sherman no name are the only recognized varieties. I believe some of the 69 checklists and maybe a Namath RC butterfly are noted but not yet in the registry. Other than that, I belive there is squat. When I look done the BB lists, almost every major set has a basic and a master set. This appears to be a discrepancy.
Now I know that FB had shorter print runs done over a smaller time frame and just don't have the same number of small corrected errors and variations, but the ones that are there are not attributed. I understand that doing this at this time would cost PSA money with the reholdering of potentially a lot of cards. I don't expect them to do it unless we as a group can show them that it would be good for business. The 60's varieties that I know For sure that I would collect Master sets of would be, 63 Fleer back stripe/ no stripe, 63 Topps background color, and (God ... please don't let Couldabeena read this) but 63 Stancraft different backs.
I know that I am missing other variations in other sets, so which other variations do you/ would you collect if attributed and would you collect any of these master sets?
Fuzz
Wanted: Bell Brands FB and BB, Chiefs regionals especially those ugly milk cards, Coke caps, Topps and Fleer inserts and test issues from the 60's. 1981 FB Rack pack w/ Jan Stenerud on top.
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1969 Topps Jim Turner red/yellow dot:
1969 Topps 4-in-1 label colors:
1970 Topps red/black text:
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I also just recently learned about back variations in the 1935 National Chicle Football set. Notice the placement of the Eddie Casey signature, right or center.
<< <i> and (God ... please don't let Couldabeena read this) but 63 Stancraft different backs. >>
The '48 Leafs variations were just added to the set registry a few months ago. I think I remember getting an e-mail and voting on it before it was done, so I'd imagine that one of the guys was requesting it. I bet if you send PSA a spreadsheet of the variations, and request a Master set to be added ... they'd do it.
I agree (of course) that the '63 Stancrafts should be two different sets. As a matter of fact, there's supposed to be a 3rd pinochle set that was printed too (although I still haven't seen one). The other problem with the Stancraft set, is that they left out the 2nd joker (which is also a different card) making it only a 51 card set.
Also, if I can ever talk PSA into grading the 48-52 Exhibits again, I'd like to see them listed on the set registry with all of their tint variations included.
Mike
Will obviously take several requests to start this process and at least from the response to this thread, it doesn't appear to be there yet.
Fuzz
PS. Thanks everyone for the info on some of the other varieties out there.