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Heck with the missing letters, where's the rest of my birdie!!!!!!!!! 1921 P Morgan

When M4M and I were looking at this auction, I thought that someone had gotten a little carried away with a dremel......but now that it is in hand, I can see that we may have been wrong. Coolest telltale is if you look where the wingtip should have been, it has a whole lotta cracks from stress.



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This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

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  • another discovery!!!

    Jesus Christ- when ya gonna give the rest of us schmucks a chance!


    Good pic image
  • eyoung429eyoung429 Posts: 6,374
    Hey, gotta make up fer lost time when I was doing wheaties....
    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

    Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    oh my
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  • I'm gonna have to start sanding letters off to keep up with you. image

    And you outbid me again last night on that VAM1G. No biggie - that was the third one on Ebay in the last two weeks, and I got the other two. image
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  • eyoung429eyoung429 Posts: 6,374
    Actually that was the 3rd of 4

    I got one other one roughly a 60 on a BIN with my son for 9.95 on Wednesday.....image
    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

    Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
  • COOL!!imageimage

    Now you need to come up with a catchy name for it.

    Here's my recommendation based on a historical fact.

    (I personally believe the "Pinned Wing" die gouge was put on some of the coins intentionally to commemorate this event).

    From U.S. Coin advisors.com:

    "Another tangible link to the past is Peter the Mint Eagle. Sometime after mechanization arrived at the Mint in the earlier decades of the 19th century, a friendly bald eagle (apparently eagles still roamed freely in southeastern Pennsylvania less than 200 years ago) claimed the Mint as his home. Instantly, he became a popular mascot to the Mint employees, and was named Peter.

    Unfortunately, Peter was mortally wounded when he got caught up inside a machine flywheel that started up suddenly. After a visit to a taxidermist, Peter was mounted and is on display today for all to see -- an inspiration from the past in the modern Mint. Legend has it that Peter was the model for the eagle on a few of our coins, such as the Flying Eagle cents of 1856-1858."


    If I only had a dollar for every VAM I have...err...nevermind...I do!! image

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  • eyoung429eyoung429 Posts: 6,374
    My son and daughter both came up with it at the same time::;


    1921 Semi-Roadkill!!!!


    heheheheh.....

    I was just going to call it "Pressed Eagle".
    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

    Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
  • VamGuyVamGuy Posts: 1,624


    << <i>

    I was just going to call it "Pressed Eagle". >>

    Very cool coin. image
    How about calling it "Vanishing Eagle"? image
  • That is a wild one! You don't need a loupe to see that. I wonder how it happened?
  • "Cheney Target" image
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  • eyoung429eyoung429 Posts: 6,374
    Carl W. : Grease filled die


    B-man: Nah....would have been wounded eagle...
    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

    Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    nice strike thru
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  • eyoung429eyoung429 Posts: 6,374
    Thanks! I can't wait to get home and put this under a loupe....you know, I never even checked for VAM...just though how cool it would be to have that major of a strike through after it has been around for almost a hundred years and it's just now coming to light.

    BTW....just looking at the pics, M4M may be right....it does look like a nice gouge going through the eagle's lft breast into the wing....

    Hell, 2 for the price of 1!!!!!!!
    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

    Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
  • WOW! That's a keeper.
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  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's broken - send it back.

  • eyoung429eyoung429 Posts: 6,374
    Hmmmm, Only if you have a 1Z or a 1X for trade image
    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

    Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
  • CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139
    Cool. Phantom Wing.
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  • eyoung429eyoung429 Posts: 6,374
    I like that Coxe....but what about the missing head?

    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

    Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,746 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • How about

    the left my wing at home and I'm losing my head Morgan!
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Not being a VAM guy, isn't that a struck through grease or struck through cloth error and not a VAM?

    It is very cool though!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • lavalava Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭
    Very cool looking coin. It deserves a good name.
    I brake for ear bars.
  • Wild looking coin! Nice find! I'm not sure if Leroy is giving out new designations for grease-filled dies. Keep us posted. Looks very cool! image
  • eyoung429eyoung429 Posts: 6,374


    << <i>Not being a VAM guy, isn't that a struck through grease or struck through cloth error and not a VAM?

    It is very cool though! >>



    It is stuck through grease and not considered a VAM per se. The remark for the VAM is the die gouge that is going from the left breast into the wing. That would be considered a VAM.
    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

    Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
  • What is the approximate worth of one of these? I have an individual who contacted me this afternoon who has a similar one that is only missing the wing edge and the "A" of america.

    I would like to make a decent offer on it and not seem like I am ripping him.

    Thanks.
    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

    Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.

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