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I like Gold Dollars-- new blog on Doug Winter site on New Orleans gold dollars

LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
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I happen to like gold dollars, although the sight of such a small gold coin turns most collectors' stomachs. I have not really focused on building a set of any sort, although the Winter blog makes some good arguments for doing so. The article mentions New Orleans gold dollars, which, if the thought of a gold dollar doesn't turn your stomach, the thought of a New Orleans gold dollar almost certainly will give you the dry heaves at least. But I still like them. Here is the link. What do you think?

N.O. gold dollars
Always took candy from strangers
Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)

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  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    if a person is convinced to collect in that area from a small
    article about the coin's values.. it must not take much
    for this dealer to get his customers to part with their money.

    yay, a set that can be summarized in 3 paragrpahs all nicely
    mapped out for you to buy from him.

    color me not impressed.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gold dollars are neat. Their small size is what gives them their charm. Also, these coins actually circulated as money (prior to the Civil War when hoarding began) unlike other US gold coins which only circulated in the western states.




    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    perry,

    what struck me about the article was the cold way he
    described the dates, approx value, and how to collect the set.

    no real mention of the history, size ?issue?, charm of the design,
    circulation facts, etc...

    just a dealer's outlook on what he cares about most.
    how much for what grade. thanks come again.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree. The article was lacking in the aspects you described. Some dealers forget there is more to coins than just $$$$$$$$$.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    if someone is reading this, this article on a website
    is much more romantic about the subject.

    http://www.southerngoldsociety.org/neworleans.html
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭


    << <i>if someone is reading this, this article on a website
    is much more romantic about the subject.

    http://www.southerngoldsociety.org/neworleans.html >>





    That is an outstanding article. Very QDB-esque. I wonder if the author has written any books. If so, I would like to get some autographed copies.
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
    --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    what struck me about the article was the cold way he
    described the dates, approx value, and how to collect the set.

    no real mention of the history, size ?issue?, charm of the design,
    circulation facts, etc...

    just a dealer's outlook on what he cares about most.
    how much for what grade. thanks come again.

    I agree. The article was lacking in the aspects you described. Some dealers forget there is more to coins than just $$$$$$$$$.

    Actually, there are few people around who have done as much scholarly work on southern gold as DW. He chooses to emphasize the populations, varieties, and characteristics of the coins, as in this example, rather than the historic backdrop in most cases. There are some exceptions, and these have generally been excellent. In his book on Type I $20's, each year had a historic and numismatic backdrop. There is excellent historic narrative in his books on Dahlonega and Carson City, and the upcoming book on New Orleans is sure to please in this regard.

    People publicly (and privately) ask me for gold coin collecting ideas all the time. In this article, he is publicly providing one. He has a website full of articles, which if you are a collector of gold coins and have not read thoroughly, you are remiss. How many other dealers spend this much effort to educate the collecting public (other than QDB, of course)?
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    RYK---I have all of DW's books and I agree that they are well worth buying if you are a serious collector of US gold coins.


    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
    fc:

    If you want more, read his multiple books. image
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    i have read his website over long ago and just got done
    rereading an article i have forgotten about.

    i am going to have to start bidding against folks here for
    the nice ebay books image
  • DaveGDaveG Posts: 3,535 ✭
    That is an outstanding article. Very QDB-esque. I wonder if the author has written any books. If so, I would like to get some autographed copies.

    Longacre, I think you forgot to put a "winkie" at the end of that sentence! image

    fc and Longacre, thanks for the plug! image

    Check out the Southern Gold Society

  • CalypsoCalypso Posts: 44
    Hello Longacre,

    Doug Winter is certainly an authority on US gold, I love his writings. Gold dollars aren't for everyone but my philosophy is to collect coins in sets you enjoy. Obviously thoroughly educate yourself BEFORE you buy anything.
    I derive a great deal of pleasure from gold dollars and continue to collect type 1 and 2. To me they're wonderous historic little jewels. New Orleans gold dollars are lovely, choose carefully for strike and surface quality. I would add the Akers book on Gold Dollars to the suggestions others have made if you can find a copy.image
    Calypso
  • DaveGDaveG Posts: 3,535 ✭
    If you don't want to wait for a copy to appear on eBay, the Akers Gold dollar book is available here.

    Check out the Southern Gold Society

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