NGC prescreened coins than did not holder 75% of them.

seateddime

I took a box of coins to the Palm Beach show to have them pre screened before submission. David at NGC told me the coins that will holder, which coin may or may not holder and the coins that won't.

I took only the coins I was told would holder and submitted them. Today they are being mailed back. They slabbed 1 out of 4 coins.

NGC put 3 out of 4 coins in body bags after they told me they would holder.

Anyone have ideas on what to do next?

Bochiman

Why were they rejected, do you think?
Color? Scratches?

Were they raw or in another holder?

I think you got shafted, but I think it could be an "opinion". If you really want them holdered and one opinion was that they should, then maybe send them in again. Might get a "new" opinion.

braddick

<< <i>I took a box of coins to the Palm Beach show to have them pre screened before submission. David at NGC told me the coins that will holder, which coin may or may not holder and the coins that won't. I took only the coins I was told would holder and submitted them. Today they are being mailed back. They slabbed 1 out of 4 coins. NGC put 3 out of 4 coins in body bags after they told me they would holder. Anyone have ideas on what to do next? >>



Have a good cry and then try, try again?

TorinoCobra71

Submit to PCGS or ANACS?

TorinoCobra71

Myqqy

What type of coins are you talking about- what type of financial value? What is your purpose for having them slabbed?

seateddime

coins worth over $1000 each

BigD5

Opinions are opinions. See why they weren't graded and make a decision after that. Could be as simple as pvc residue, which would usually mean an easy solution and then simply resubmit. Could be more complex (tooling etc.) and/or something that wasn't picked up readily at the prescreen.

seateddime

<< <i>Opinions are opinions. See why they weren't graded and make a decision after that. Could be as simple as pvc residue, which would usually mean an easy solution and then simply resubmit. Could be more complex (tooling etc.) and/or something that wasn't picked up readily at the prescreen. >>



2 they say was cleaned (maybe 100 years ago with a tissue) and 1 has environ damage.

I think it is all just a scam to get you to keep sending the coins back along with another $30 each.

I can wait to see what they do on the cheaper coins. Maybe they are all fakes?

CommemDude

You will be more successful with the cheaper coins....it's all about the financial risk to the TPG.

Same happened to me with a set of 48 original commems I sent in for their first pass at PCGS....all the rare issues came back with lower than expected grades, and higher grades went to the common coins, again lower financial risk to the TPG in the case of a grading or AT error in my opinion. None of the coins body bagged, but the set was clearly original.

BobaFett72

that really sucks.....

as to the comment about "you would be more successful with cheaper coins" thats probably the case, but a sleazy way to do business. If they bodybag your coin I assume you pay the full price of having it graded? RIPOFF. for the 9 seconds they looked at your coin they could at least net grade it etc. like ANACS does.

MORGANHUNTER2

<<I took a box of coins to the Palm Beach show to have them pre screened before submission. David at NGC told me the coins that will holder, which coin may or may not holder and the coins that won't.>>

It seems to me from reading your thread- this David fellow told you what was going to holder, and you submitted based on his expertise(?), and the ones you sent you get back 3 in a bag?

I would be pissed off- without a doubt.

Maybe a letter to the CEO stating that when they have a person at shows make decisions as such- he should be able to back up what HIS people say. I'm not to thrilled with the idea that if you go to a show and a TPG is giving free advice on a coin and tells you it can pass the muster, and then it doesn't lends me to come to the same conclusion- it's all about the money for the plastic- and that sucks.

Personally if the TPG's are going to offer such a service at any show- then the person doing the 'grading/authenticating, should put there name on the submission form(they are in triplicate most of the time) that way if the coins in question come back as yours did - you can pitch a hissy with the company, and get $$ back, or get the person into a grading class to learn how to grade a coin.

this is a sad day in Little Rock..

koynekwest

Try a diiferent grading company.

seateddime

I called NGC in a not so great mood. They are now telling me that of the 8 coins that are left there 2 will grade. Seeing I know 3 of the coins were removed from NGC holders to be put in a dansco album I find this hard to understand.

What is the point of paying for a service you don't get?

I am or at least was trying to build a reg. set. Seeing that my Liberty Seated Dime collection is 1 coin from finished and 80% raw that is a lot of coins to submit. Based on this result I will let them age gracefully in the Dansco Album.

Maybe I can buy a custom capital plastic for the set. Even if I paid $1,000 it would still be cheaper plastic and all the coins would fit!

rays

PCGS does the same thing. To which, first submission:

1 22091544 1816 1C USA Altered Surfaces
2 22091545 1830 1C Large Letters USA Altered Surfaces

Second submission 3 months later:

1 09111633 1816 1C USA MS63BN
2 09111634 1818 1C USA MS65BN
3 09111635 1822 1C USA MS62BN
4 09111636 1827 1C USA MS63BN
5 09111637 1830 1C Large Letters USA MS62BN
6 09111638 1832 1C Large Letters USA MS63BN
7 09111639 1835 1C Small 8, Stars USA MS62BN
8 09111640 1839 1C Booby Head USA MS64BN


These are the same two coins (1816 and 1830).

relayer

Don't ask David for his opinion anymore

Dabigkahuna

Did you pay for the pre-screen service? If so, you should have recourse with NGC.



Larry
Dabigkahuna

Barry

I think it is all just a scam to get you to keep sending the coins back along with another $30 each.

Bingo. If you are going to keep the coins, keep them raw. If you are going to sell them, you're pretty much forced to play their game.

291fifth

Free evaluations at shows are worth just what you paid for them.

ScarsdaleCoin

guess you should have sent in the ones he told you would not holder.....then you would have got 3 out of 4 in

seateddime

<< <i>guess you should have sent in the ones he told you would not holder.....then you would have got 3 out of 4 in >>



That is a good idea!

As a follow up they remaining 8 coins that were submitted economy will see 2 out of 8 slab.

Maybe I should consign them to Heritage and buy them back.

dizzyfoxx

Sounds like "throwing darts"... keep throwing 'em, you'll eventually hit the bulls-eye.

KurtHorn

This kind of experience is typical... All you can do is sit on them, or try again...