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The only moderns I have in my WSCT portfolio are DCAM SMS Jeffersons and...

RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
...They're also the only coins that have gone up - two price moves so far. The rest of the portfolio is classics and they're rotting on the vine. That's what I get for listening to the "real" collectors. image

Russ, NCNE

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,166 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Short term money is to be made with Moderns.

    The Classics though, held long term, I'd imagine will perform better.


    Long term meaning five, ten+ years, not five, ten weeks.
  • Long term meaning five, ten+ years, not five, ten weeks

    Problem with that, is the contest is only one year long. image
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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,701 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you want to make a million dollars on a coin then you'll almost have no choice but
    to start with a million dollar coin and wait. But if you want to make a million dollars in
    coins then you need coins which will experience the largest percentage gains.

    In almost all cases this means moderns. No, not pocket change, moderns. It is hardly
    unusual to see these coins go from 25c to $3, or from $2 to $10. Even scarcer moderns
    can increase many fold in a very brief period.

    Investing in any coins is foolhardy and anyone who suddenly decides to drop a lot of
    money in moderns would be unlikely to ever see most of it again, but those who are col-
    lecting these coins are well aware are hundreds if not thousands of dramatically under-
    valued coins. The problem is that even after you identify a 25c coin that should be worth
    closer to $100 you will find that you can't just order them from some wholesaler or make
    a few calls and stock up on them. Like all tough coins they are tough the only difference
    is that with moderns the tough coins might cost a quarter.

    Those who are collecting moderns are doing extremely well.

    I had noticed the SMS Jeffersons were raised recently but then, so were almost all the SMS
    issues.
    Tempus fugit.


  • << <i>If you want to make a million dollars on a coin then you'll almost have no choice but
    to start with a million dollar coin and wait. But if you want to make a million dollars in
    coins then you need coins which will experience the largest percentage gains.

    In almost all cases this means moderns. No, not pocket change, moderns. It is hardly
    unusual to see these coins go from 25c to $3, or from $2 to $10. Even scarcer moderns
    can increase many fold in a very brief period.

    Investing in any coins is foolhardy and anyone who suddenly decides to drop a lot of
    money in moderns would be unlikely to ever see most of it again, but those who are col-
    lecting these coins are well aware are hundreds if not thousands of dramatically under-
    valued coins. The problem is that even after you identify a 25c coin that should be worth
    closer to $100 you will find that you can't just order them from some wholesaler or make
    a few calls and stock up on them. Like all tough coins they are tough the only difference
    is that with moderns the tough coins might cost a quarter.

    Those who are collecting moderns are doing extremely well.

    I had noticed the SMS Jeffersons were raised recently but then, so were almost all the SMS
    issues. >>



    I think this is a very interesting point... it is very possible to find a conditional rarity for 25 cents that can go for $900+ USD, other than a VAM, I don't think you'll find that kind of opportunity in the classics.

    In the era of ultramodern proof sets, it’s not unusual to have a 100% yield (or more) a year…

    Reminds me of the 1999 set… I was offered out of the blue $550 USD for it (a few years back)… not bad for a $17.95 (USD) set… image

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  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,980 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My portfolio started out 100% moderns (with a heavy emphasis on platinum coins). Some of the coins have seen movement approaching 20%+ in a month and a short while ago I shifted to a blended modern and classic portfolio (for example, my MS Liberty Nickels have been performing quite nicely as well on the heels of the ANR Friend Collection sale). But, consider that the 2004 Plat Proof sets the mint stopped selling in 3/05 at $2,495 now trade between $8,000-$9,000/set (if my math is right those sets have appreciated about 20% per month for 12 months straight now) and the 2005 Plat Proof sets the mint stopped selling about 45 days ago at $2,495 now trade close to $3,250- $3,450/set (about 25%+ per month appreciation to this point). A coin like the scarce Unfinished Dies 1999 $10 MS Gold has also seen appreciation approaching 100% in the past year - both in the Price Guide and in the collectors' hands as well best I know. If I am not mistaken, Heritage even had a sizeable lot of these coins in their Platinum Night sale at FUN, which sold.

    IMHO, this WSCT will be won by a portfolio rich in the "right" modern coins complimented by the "right" classics and will require an intimate knowledge of both segments of the market. The competition should get intense in the weeks and months ahead.

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